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Mer oppfølging fra MPEG-LA om avtale med dem for å kringkaste og publisere H.264-video
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5th July 2012
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I føljetongen om H.264 +forlot +jeg leserne i undring om hvor pakken fra MPEG-LA tok veien, og om +hvilke selskaper i Norge som har avtale med MPEG-LA. Da Ryan hos +MPEG-LA dro på ferie sendte jeg min melding videre til hans kollega, +og dagen etter fikk jeg følgende svar derfra:

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:32:34 +0000 +
From: Sidney Wolf <SWolf (at) mpegla.com> +
To: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com> +
Cc: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com> +
Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

+ +

Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,

+ +

Thank you for your message. As you know, Ryan is currently our of the +office, so it will be my pleasure to assist you.

+ +

Per your request, attached please find an electronic copy of the +AVC Patent Portfolio License. Please note that the electronic copy of +the License is provided as a convenience and for informational +purposes only. When concluding the Licenses, only the hard copies +provided by MPEG LA may be used.

+ +

To your question, MPEG LA lists our Licensees on our website +according to each program. The lists are in alphabetical order, so it +is very easy to search.

+ +

I hope that this was helpful. If we can be of additional +assistance, please let me know.

+ +

Kind regards,

+ +

Sidney A. Wolf +
Manager, Global Licensing +
MPEG LA

+

+ +

Selv om et epostvedlegg er nyttig for mottakeren, så håpet jeg å få +et dokument jeg kunne dele med alle leserne av bloggen min, og ikke et +som må deles på individuell basis. Opphavsretten krever godkjenning +fra rettighetsinnehaver før en kan gjøre slikt, så dermed fulgte jeg +opp med et spørsmål om dette var greit.

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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 20:25:06 +0200 +
From: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com> +
To: Sidney Wolf <SWolf (at) mpegla.com> +
Cc: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com> +
Subject: Re: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

+ +

Thank you for your reply.

+ +

[Sidney Wolf] +
> Per your request, attached please find an electronic copy of the AVC +
> Patent Portfolio License. Please note that the electronic copy of +
> the License is provided as a convenience and for informational +
> purposes only. When concluding the Licenses, only the hard copies +
> provided by MPEG LA may be used.

+ +

This is useful for me to learn, but the reason I asked for the +Internet address of the licensing document was to ensure I could +publish a link to it when I discuss the topic of H.264 licensing here +in Norway, and allow others to verify my observations. I can not do +the same with an email attachment. Thus I would like to ask you if it +is OK with MPEG LA that I publish this document on the Internet for +others to read?

+ +

> To your question, MPEG LA lists our Licensees on our website +
> according to each program. The lists are in alphabetical order, so +
> it is very easy to search.

+ +

I am afraid this do not help me locate Norwegian companies in the +list of Licensees. I do not know the name of all companies and +organisations in Norway, and thus do not know how to locate the +Norwegian ones on that list.

+ +

> I hope that this was helpful. If we can be of additional assistance, +
> please let me know.

+ +

Absoutely helpful to learn more about how MPEG LA handle licensing.

+ +

-- +
Happy hacking +
Petter Reinholdtsen

+

+ +

Jeg håpet også at det skulle være mulig å få vite hvilke av de +mange hundre som har avtale med MPEG-LA om bruk av H.264 som holdt til +i Norge. Begge mine håp falt i grus med svaret fra MPEG-LA. + +

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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:42:39 +0000 +
From: Sidney Wolf <SWolf (at) mpegla.com> +
To: 'Petter Reinholdtsen' <pere (at) hungry.com> +
Cc: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com> +
Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

+ +

Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,

+ +

Thank you for your reply.

+ +

We appreciate the additional explanation you have provided and for +asking our permission to publish the electronic copy of the License in +advance of doing so. Typically, MPEG LA prefers to distribute the +electronic copies of our Licenses to interested parties. Therefore, +please feel free to send interested parties to the AVC portion of our +website, http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Intro.aspx for +their further reference.

+ +

As previously mentioned, MPEG LA maintains a list of Licensees in good +standing on our website according to each program. Due to the large +volume of Licensees, it would be administratively impractical to +provide this level of detail to interested parties. Therefore, I am +afraid we are not in a position to assist you with your request.

+ +

Kind regards,

+ +

Sidney A. Wolf +
Manager, Global Licensing +
MPEG LA

+

+ +

Men takket være epostvedlegget kunne jeg søke på Google etter +setningen "WHEREAS, a video standard commonly referred to as AVC has +been defined and is referred to in this Agreement as the “AVC +Standard” (as more fully defined herein below)" som finnes i avtalen, +og lokalisere en kopi fra 2007 av +lisensavtalen +mellom MPEG-LA og DivX, Inc., slik at mine lesere kan se hvordan +avtalen så ut da. Jeg har ikke sammenlignet tekstene for å se om noe +har endret seg siden den tid.

+ +

Jeg aner fortsatt ikke hvor FedEx tok veien med pakken fra +MPEG-LA.

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+ + + Tags: multimedia, norsk, opphavsrett, standard, video, web. + + +
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Hvorfor leverer noen sent til Offentlig Elektronisk postjournal?
5th July 2012
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MPEG-LA mener NRK må ha avtale med dem for å kringkaste og publisere H.264-video
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28th June 2012
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Etter at NRK -nektet -å spore opp eventuell avtale med MPEG-LA eller andre om bruk av -MPEG/H.264-video etter at jeg ba -om innsyn i slike avtaler, tenkte jeg at i stedet for å forsøke å -få NRK til å finne en slik avtale, så burde det være like enkelt å -spørre MPEG-LA om de hadde avtale med NRK. Spørsmålet ble sendt før -jeg fikk tips fra Kieran Kunhya om hvor listen over lisensinnehavere -"in Good Standing" befant seg. MPEG-LA svarte meg i dag, og kan -fortelle at NRK ikke har noen avtale med dem, så da er i det minste det -slått fast. Ikke overraskende mener MPEG-LA at det trengs en avtale -med MPEG-LA for å streame H.264, men deres rammer er jo -rettstilstanden i USA og ikke Norge. Jeg tar dermed den delen av -svaret med en klype salt. Jeg er dermed fortsatt ikke klok på om det -trengs en avtale, og hvis det trengs en avtale her i Norge, heller -ikke sikker på om NRK har en avtale med noen andre enn MPEG-LA som -gjør at de ikke trenger avtale direkte med MPEG-LA. Jeg håper NRKs -jurister har vurdert dette, og at det er mulig å få tilgang til -vurderingen uansett om de trenger en avtale eller ikke.

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Her er epostutvekslingen med MPEG-LA så langt. Håper ikke -utvekslingen fører til NRK plutselig får en litt uventet pakke fra -MPEG-LA.

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:29:37 +0200 -
From: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com> -
To: licensing-web (at) mpegla.com -
Subject: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

- -

Hi. I have a small question for you, that I hope it is OK that I -ask.

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Is there any license agreements between MPEG-LA and NRK, <URL: -http://www.nrk.no/ >, the -Norwegian national broadcasting cooperation? I am not sure if they -need one, and am just curious if such agreeement exist.

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The postal address is

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- NRK -
Postbox 8500, Majorstuen -
0340 Oslo -
Norway -

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if it make it easier for you to locate such agreement.

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Can you tell me how many entities in Norway have an agreement with -MPEG-LA, and the name of these entities?

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Happy hacking -
Petter Reinholdtsen -

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I dag, to dager senere, fikk jeg følgende svar:

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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:11:17 +0000 -
From: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com> -
To: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com> -
CC: MD Administration <MDAdministration (at) mpegla.com> -
Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

- -

Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,

- -

Thank you for your message and for your interest in MPEG LA. We -appreciate hearing from you and I will be happy to assist you.

- -

To begin, I will assume that you are referring to AVC/H.264 -technology in your message below, as this technology is commonly used -in the transmission of video content. In that case, please allow me -to briefly summarize the coverage provided by our AVC Patent Portfolio -License.

- -

Our AVC License provides coverage for end products and video -services that make use of AVC/H.264 technology. Accordingly, the -party offering such end products and video to End Users concludes the -AVC License and is responsible for paying the applicable royalties -associated with the end products/video they offer.

- -

While the Norwegian Broadcast Corporation (NRK) is not currently a -Licensee to MPEG LA's AVC License (or any other Portfolio License -offered by MPEG LA), if NRK offers AVC Video to End Users for -remuneration (for example, Title-by-Title, Subscription, Free -Television, or Internet Broadcast AVC Video), then NRK will need to -conclude the AVC License and may be responsible for paying applicable -royalties associated with the AVC Video it distributes.

- -

Today I will send you a FedEx package containing a copy of our AVC -License for your review. You should receive the License document -within the next few days.

- -

Meanwhile, MPEG LA currently has several Norwegian Licensees that -can be found under the "Licensees" header within the respective -portion of our website. For example, you may find our list of -Licensees in Good Standing to our AVC License in the AVC portion of -our website, -http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx

- -

I hope the above information is helpful. If you have additional -questions or need further assistance with the AVC License, please feel -free to contact me directly. I look forward to hearing from you again -soon.

- -

Best regards,

- -

Ryan

- -

Ryan M. Rodriguez -
Licensing Associate -
MPEG LA -
5425 Wisconsin Avenue -
Suite 801 -
Chevy Chase, MD 20815 -
U.S.A. -
Phone: +1 (301) 986-6660 x211 -
Fax: +1 (301) 986-8575 -
Email: rrodriguez (at) mpegla.com

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Meldingen om utsendt FedEx-pakke var så merkelig at jeg -øyeblikkelig sendte svar tilbake og spurte hva i alle dager han mente, -da han jo ikke hadde fått noen postadresse som nådde meg.

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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:36:15 +0200 -
From: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com> -
To: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com> -
Cc: MD Administration <MDAdministration (at) mpegla.com> -
Subject: Re: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

- -

[Ryan Rodriguez] -
> Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,

- -

Thank you for your quick reply.

- -

> Today I will send you a FedEx package containing a copy of our AVC -
> License for your review. You should receive the License document -
> within the next few days.

- -

The part about sending a FedEx package confused me, though. I did not -
give you my address, nor am I associated with NRK in any way, so I hope -
you did not try to send me a package using the address of NRK. If you -
would send me the Internet address of to the document, it would be more -
useful to me to be able to download it as an electronic document.

- -

> Meanwhile, MPEG LA currently has several Norwegian Licensees that can -
> be found under the "Licensees" header within the respective portion -
> of our website. For example, you may find our list of Licensees in -
> Good Standing to our AVC License in the AVC portion of our website, -
> http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx

- -

How can I recognize the Norwegian licensees?

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Happy hacking -
Petter Reinholdtsen

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Selv om jeg svarte kun noen minutter etter at jeg fikk eposten fra -MPEG-LA, fikk jeg eposten under som automatisk var beskjed på min -siste epost. Får håpe noen likevel følger opp "FedEx-pakken". For å -øke sjansen for at noen revurderer utsending av pakke uten mottaker, -videresendte jeg min epost til swolf (at) mpegla.com, så får vi se. -Har ikke hørt noe mer 3 timer senere, så jeg mistenker at ingen leste -min epost tidsnok.

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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:36:20 +0000 -
From: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com> -
To: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com> -
Subject: Automatic reply: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

- -

Thank you for your message.

- -

I will be out of the office until Thursday, July 5 and will respond -to all messages upon my return. If this is a matter that requires -immediate attention, please contact Sidney Wolf (swolf (at) -mpegla.com)

- -

Best regards,

- -

Ryan

- -

Ryan M. Rodriguez -
Licensing Associate -
MPEG LA

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Litt klokere, men fortsatt ikke klok på mitt opprinnelige spørsmål, -som er om en trenger avtale med MPEG-LA for å publisere eller -kringkaste H.264-video i Norge.

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- - - Tags: multimedia, norsk, opphavsrett, standard, video, web. - - -
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