<div class="entry">
- <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Officeshots_taking_shape.html">Officeshots taking shape</a></div>
- <div class="date">2010-06-13 11:40</div>
+ <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/DND_hedrer_overv__kning_av_barn_med_Rosingsprisen.html">DND hedrer overvåkning av barn med Rosingsprisen</a></div>
+ <div class="date">2010-11-23 14:15</div>
<div class="body">
-<p>For those of us caring about document exchange and
-interoperability, <a href="http://www.officeshots.org/">OfficeShots</a>
-is a great service. It is to ODF documents what
-<a href="http://browsershots.org/">BrowserShots</a> is for web
-pages.</p>
-
-<p>A while back, I was contacted by Knut Yrvin at the part of Nokia
-that used to be Trolltech, who wanted to help the OfficeShots project
-and wondered if the University of Oslo where I work would be
-interested in supporting the project. I helped him to navigate his
-request to the right people at work, and his request was answered with
-a spot in the machine room with power and network connected, and Knut
-arranged funding for a machine to fill the spot. The machine is
-administrated by the OfficeShots people, so I do not have daily
-contact with its progress, and thus from time to time check back to
-see how the project is doing.</p>
-
-<p>Today I had a look, and was happy to see that the Dell box in our
-machine room now is the host for several virtual machines running as
-OfficeShots factories, and the project is able to render ODF documents
-in 17 different document processing implementation on Linux and
-Windows. This is great.</p>
+<p>Jeg registrerer med vond smak i munnen at Den Norske Dataforening
+<a
+href="http://www.dataforeningen.no/hedret-med-rosingprisen.4849070-133913.html">hedrer
+overvåkning av barn med Rosingsprisen for kreativitet i år</a>. Jeg
+er glad jeg nå er meldt ut av DND.</p>
+
+<p>Å elektronisk overvåke sine barn er ikke å gjøre dem en tjeneste,
+men et overgrep mot individer i utvikling som bør læres opp til å ta
+egne valg.</p>
+
+<p>For å sitere Datatilsynets nye leder, Bjørn Erik Thon, i
+<a href="http://www.idg.no/computerworld/article174262.ece">et intervju
+med Computerworld Norge</A>:</p>
+
+<p><blockquote>
+- For alle som har barn, meg selv inkludert, er førstetanken at det
+hadde vært fint å vite hvor barnet sitt er til enhver tid. Men ungene
+har ikke godt av det. De er små individer som skal søke rundt og finne
+sine små gjemmesteder og utvide horisonten, uten at foreldrene ser dem
+i kortene. Det kan være fristende, men jeg ville ikke gått inn i
+dette.
+</blockquote></p>
+
+<p>Det er skremmende å se at DND mener en tjeneste som legger opp til
+slike overgrep bør hedres. Å flytte oppveksten for barn inn i en
+virtuell
+<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon">Panopticon</a> er et
+grovt overgrep og vil gjøre skade på barnenes utvikling, og foreldre
+burde tenke seg godt om før de gir etter for sine instinkter her.</p>
+
+<p>Blipper-tjenesten får meg til å tenke på bøkene til
+<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Twelve_Hawks">John Twelve
+Hawks</a>, som forbilledlig beskriver hvordan et totalitært
+overvåkningssamfunn bygges sakte men sikkert rundt oss, satt sammen av
+gode intensjoner og manglende bevissthet om hvilke prinsipper et
+liberalt demokrati er fundamentert på. Jeg har hatt stor glede av å
+lese alle de tre bøkene.</p>
</div>
<div class="tags">
- Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard</a>.
+ Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet</a>.
</div>
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<div class="entry">
- <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__removals_by_apt_and_aptitude.html">Lenny->Squeeze upgrades, removals by apt and aptitude</a></div>
- <div class="date">2010-06-13 09:05</div>
+ <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades_of_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop__now_with_apt_get_autoremove.html">Lenny->Squeeze upgrades of the Gnome and KDE desktop, now with apt-get autoremove</a></div>
+ <div class="date">2010-11-22 14:15</div>
<div class="body">
-<p>My
-<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_upgrade_testing_from_Lenny_to_Squeeze.html">testing
-of Debian upgrades</a> from Lenny to Squeeze continues, and I've
-finally made the upgrade logs available from
-<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/debian-upgrade-testing/</a>.
-I am now testing dist-upgrade of Gnome and KDE in a chroot using both
-apt and aptitude, and found their differences interesting. This time
-I will only focus on their removal plans.</p>
-
-<p>After installing a Gnome desktop and the laptop task, apt-get wants
-to remove 72 packages when dist-upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze. The
-surprising part is that it want to remove xorg and all
-xserver-xorg-video* drivers. Clearly not a good choice, but I am not
-sure why. When asking aptitude to do the same, it want to remove 129
-packages, but most of them are library packages I suspect are no
-longer needed. Both of them want to remove bluetooth packages, which
-I do not know. Perhaps these bluetooth packages are obsolete?</p>
-
-<p>For KDE, apt-get want to remove 82 packages, among them kdebase
-which seem like a bad idea and xorg the same way as with Gnome. Asking
-aptitude for the same, it wants to remove 192 packages, none which are
-too surprising.</p>
-
-<p>I guess the removal of xorg during upgrades should be investigated
-and avoided, and perhaps others as well. Here are the complete list
-of planned removals. The complete logs is available from the URL
-above. Note if you want to repeat these tests, that the upgrade test
-for kde+apt-get hung in the tasksel setup because of dpkg asking
-conffile questions. No idea why. I worked around it by using
-'<tt>echo >> /proc/<em>pidofdpkg</em>/fd/0</tt>' to tell dpkg to
-continue.</p>
-
-<p><b>apt-get gnome 72</b>
-<br>bluez-gnome cupsddk-drivers deskbar-applet gnome
- gnome-desktop-environment gnome-network-admin gtkhtml3.14
- iceweasel-gnome-support libavcodec51 libdatrie0 libgdl-1-0
- libgnomekbd2 libgnomekbdui2 libmetacity0 libslab0 libxcb-xlib0
- nautilus-cd-burner python-gnome2-desktop python-gnome2-extras
- serpentine swfdec-mozilla update-manager xorg xserver-xorg
- xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
- xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
- xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom
- xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
- xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips
- xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-cyrix
- xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
- xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
- xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-imstt
- xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
- xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
- xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv
- xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
- xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
- xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
- xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
- xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
- xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
- xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident
- xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l
- xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga
- xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xulrunner-1.9
- xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support</p>
-
-<p><b>aptitude gnome 129</b>
-
-<br>bluez-gnome bluez-utils cpp-4.3 cupsddk-drivers dhcdbd
- djvulibre-desktop finger gnome-app-install gnome-mount
- gnome-network-admin gnome-spell gnome-vfs-obexftp
- gnome-volume-manager gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs gtkhtml3.14 libao2
- libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5 libavcodec51 libbluetooth2
- libcamel1.2-11 libcdio7 libcucul0 libcupsys2 libcurl3 libdatrie0
- libdirectfb-1.0-0 libdvdread3 libedataserver1.2-9 libeel2-2.20
- libeel2-data libepc-1.0-1 libepc-ui-1.0-1 libfaad0 libgail-common
- libgd2-noxpm libgda3-3 libgda3-common libgdl-1-0 libgdl-1-common
- libggz2 libggzcore9 libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-0 libgksuui1.0-1 libgmyth0
- libgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomekbd2 libgnomekbdui2 libgnomeprint2.2-0
- libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common
- libgnomevfs2-bin libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtkhtml2-0
- libgtksourceview-common libgtksourceview1.0-0 libgucharmap6
- libhesiod0 libicu38 libiw29 libkpathsea4 libltdl3 libmagick++10
- libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmetacity0 libmtp7 libmysqlclient15off
- libnautilus-burn4 libneon27 libnm-glib0 libnm-util0 libopal-2.2
- libosp5 libparted1.8-10 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3 libpt-1.10.10
- libpt-1.10.10-plugins-alsa libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l libraw1394-8
- libsensors3 libslab0 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-8 libssh2-1
- libsuitesparse-3.1.0 libswfdec-0.6-90 libtalloc1 libtotem-plparser10
- libtrackerclient0 libxalan2-java libxalan2-java-gcj libxcb-xlib0
- libxerces2-java libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12 libxtrap6
- libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3 mysql-common nautilus-cd-burner
- openoffice.org-writer2latex openssl-blacklist p7zip
- python-4suite-xml python-eggtrayicon python-gnome2-desktop
- python-gnome2-extras python-gtkhtml2 python-gtkmozembed
- python-numeric python-sexy serpentine svgalibg1 swfdec-gnome
- swfdec-mozilla totem-gstreamer update-manager wodim
- xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt
- xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vga
- zip</p>
-
-<p><b>apt-get kde 82</b>
-
-<br>cupsddk-drivers karm kaudiocreator kcoloredit kcontrol kde kde-core
- kdeaddons kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-bin-kde3
- kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kdeutils khelpcenter kicker
- kicker-applets knewsticker kolourpaint konq-plugins konqueror korn
- kpersonalizer kscreensaver ksplash libavcodec51 libdatrie0 libkiten1
- libxcb-xlib0 quanta superkaramba texlive-base-bin xorg xserver-xorg
- xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
- xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
- xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom
- xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
- xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips
- xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-cyrix
- xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
- xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
- xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-imstt
- xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
- xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
- xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv
- xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
- xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
- xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
- xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
- xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
- xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
- xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident
- xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l
- xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga
- xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xulrunner-1.9</p>
-
-<p><b>aptitude kde 192</b>
-<br>bluez-utils cpp-4.3 cupsddk-drivers cvs dcoprss dhcdbd
- djvulibre-desktop dosfstools eyesapplet fifteenapplet finger gettext
- ghostscript-x imlib-base imlib11 indi kandy karm kasteroids
- kaudiocreator kbackgammon kbstate kcoloredit kcontrol kcron kdat
- kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-theme-window
- kdebase-bin-kde3 kdebase-kio-plugins kdeedu-data
- kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelirc kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data
- kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
- kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdeprint kdesktop kdessh
- kdict kdnssd kdvi kedit keduca kenolaba kfax kfaxview kfouleggs
- kghostview khelpcenter khexedit kiconedit kitchensync klatin
- klickety kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmoon kmrml kodo kolourpaint
- kooka korn kpager kpdf kpercentage kpf kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler
- krec kregexpeditor ksayit ksim ksirc ksirtet ksmiletris ksmserver
- ksnake ksokoban ksplash ksvg ksysv ktip ktnef kuickshow kverbos
- kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kworldclock
- kxsldbg libakode2 libao2 libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile
- libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libavahi-compat-libdnssd1
- libavahi-core5 libavc1394-0 libavcodec51 libbluetooth2
- libboost-python1.34.1 libcucul0 libcurl3 libcvsservice0 libdatrie0
- libdirectfb-1.0-0 libdjvulibre21 libdvdread3 libfaad0 libfreebob0
- libgail-common libgd2-noxpm libgraphviz4 libgsmme1c2a libgtkhtml2-0
- libicu38 libiec61883-0 libindex0 libiw29 libk3b3 libkcal2b libkcddb1
- libkdeedu3 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkiten1 libkleopatra1 libkmime2
- libkpathsea4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1
- libksieve0 libktnef1 liblockdev1 libltdl3 libmagick10 libmimelib1c2a
- libmozjs1d libmpcdec3 libneon27 libnm-util0 libopensync0 libpisock9
- libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler3 libraw1394-8 libsmbios2
- libssh2-1 libsuitesparse-3.1.0 libtalloc1 libtiff-tools
- libxalan2-java libxalan2-java-gcj libxcb-xlib0 libxerces2-java
- libxerces2-java-gcj libxtrap6 mpeglib networkstatus
- openoffice.org-writer2latex pmount poster psutils quanta quanta-data
- superkaramba svgalibg1 tex-common texlive-base texlive-base-bin
- texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-recommended
- xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt
- xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vga
- xulrunner-1.9</p>
-
+<p>Michael Biebl suggested to me on IRC, that I changed my automated
+upgrade testing of the
+<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">Lenny
+Gnome and KDE Desktop</a> to do <tt>apt-get autoremove</tt> when using apt-get.
+This seem like a very good idea, so I adjusted by test scripts and
+can now present the updated result from today:</p>
+
+<p>This is for Gnome:</p>
+
+<p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ apache2.2-bin
+ aptdaemon
+ baobab
+ binfmt-support
+ browser-plugin-gnash
+ cheese-common
+ cli-common
+ cups-pk-helper
+ dmz-cursor-theme
+ empathy
+ empathy-common
+ freedesktop-sound-theme
+ freeglut3
+ gconf-defaults-service
+ gdm-themes
+ gedit-plugins
+ geoclue
+ geoclue-hostip
+ geoclue-localnet
+ geoclue-manual
+ geoclue-yahoo
+ gnash
+ gnash-common
+ gnome
+ gnome-backgrounds
+ gnome-cards-data
+ gnome-codec-install
+ gnome-core
+ gnome-desktop-environment
+ gnome-disk-utility
+ gnome-screenshot
+ gnome-search-tool
+ gnome-session-canberra
+ gnome-system-log
+ gnome-themes-extras
+ gnome-themes-more
+ gnome-user-share
+ gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
+ gstreamer0.10-tools
+ gtk2-engines
+ gtk2-engines-pixbuf
+ gtk2-engines-smooth
+ hamster-applet
+ libapache2-mod-dnssd
+ libapr1
+ libaprutil1
+ libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3
+ libaprutil1-ldap
+ libart2.0-cil
+ libboost-date-time1.42.0
+ libboost-python1.42.0
+ libboost-thread1.42.0
+ libchamplain-0.4-0
+ libchamplain-gtk-0.4-0
+ libcheese-gtk18
+ libclutter-gtk-0.10-0
+ libcryptui0
+ libdiscid0
+ libelf1
+ libepc-1.0-2
+ libepc-common
+ libepc-ui-1.0-2
+ libfreerdp-plugins-standard
+ libfreerdp0
+ libgconf2.0-cil
+ libgdata-common
+ libgdata7
+ libgdu-gtk0
+ libgee2
+ libgeoclue0
+ libgexiv2-0
+ libgif4
+ libglade2.0-cil
+ libglib2.0-cil
+ libgmime2.4-cil
+ libgnome-vfs2.0-cil
+ libgnome2.24-cil
+ libgnomepanel2.24-cil
+ libgpod-common
+ libgpod4
+ libgtk2.0-cil
+ libgtkglext1
+ libgtksourceview2.0-common
+ libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil
+ libmono-addins0.2-cil
+ libmono-cairo2.0-cil
+ libmono-corlib2.0-cil
+ libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil
+ libmono-posix2.0-cil
+ libmono-security2.0-cil
+ libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
+ libmono-system2.0-cil
+ libmtp8
+ libmusicbrainz3-6
+ libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil
+ libndesk-dbus1.0-cil
+ libopal3.6.8
+ libpolkit-gtk-1-0
+ libpt2.6.7
+ libpython2.6
+ librpm1
+ librpmio1
+ libsdl1.2debian
+ libsrtp0
+ libssh-4
+ libtelepathy-farsight0
+ libtelepathy-glib0
+ libtidy-0.99-0
+ media-player-info
+ mesa-utils
+ mono-2.0-gac
+ mono-gac
+ mono-runtime
+ nautilus-sendto
+ nautilus-sendto-empathy
+ p7zip-full
+ pkg-config
+ python-aptdaemon
+ python-aptdaemon-gtk
+ python-axiom
+ python-beautifulsoup
+ python-bugbuddy
+ python-clientform
+ python-coherence
+ python-configobj
+ python-crypto
+ python-cupshelpers
+ python-elementtree
+ python-epsilon
+ python-evolution
+ python-feedparser
+ python-gdata
+ python-gdbm
+ python-gst0.10
+ python-gtkglext1
+ python-gtksourceview2
+ python-httplib2
+ python-louie
+ python-mako
+ python-markupsafe
+ python-mechanize
+ python-nevow
+ python-notify
+ python-opengl
+ python-openssl
+ python-pam
+ python-pkg-resources
+ python-pyasn1
+ python-pysqlite2
+ python-rdflib
+ python-serial
+ python-tagpy
+ python-twisted-bin
+ python-twisted-conch
+ python-twisted-core
+ python-twisted-web
+ python-utidylib
+ python-webkit
+ python-xdg
+ python-zope.interface
+ remmina
+ remmina-plugin-data
+ remmina-plugin-rdp
+ remmina-plugin-vnc
+ rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
+ rhythmbox-plugins
+ rpm-common
+ rpm2cpio
+ seahorse-plugins
+ shotwell
+ software-center
+ system-config-printer-udev
+ telepathy-gabble
+ telepathy-mission-control-5
+ telepathy-salut
+ tomboy
+ totem
+ totem-coherence
+ totem-mozilla
+ totem-plugins
+ transmission-common
+ xdg-user-dirs
+ xdg-user-dirs-gtk
+ xserver-xephyr
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ cheese
+ ekiga
+ eog
+ epiphany-extensions
+ evolution-exchange
+ fast-user-switch-applet
+ file-roller
+ gcalctool
+ gconf-editor
+ gdm
+ gedit
+ gedit-common
+ gnome-games
+ gnome-games-data
+ gnome-nettool
+ gnome-system-tools
+ gnome-themes
+ gnuchess
+ gucharmap
+ guile-1.8-libs
+ libavahi-ui0
+ libdmx1
+ libgalago3
+ libgtk-vnc-1.0-0
+ libgtksourceview2.0-0
+ liblircclient0
+ libsdl1.2debian-alsa
+ libspeexdsp1
+ libsvga1
+ rhythmbox
+ seahorse
+ sound-juicer
+ system-config-printer
+ totem-common
+ transmission-gtk
+ vinagre
+ vino
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+[nothing]
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>This is for KDE:</p>
+
+<p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ ksmserver
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ kwin
+ network-manager-kde
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ arts
+ dolphin
+ freespacenotifier
+ google-gadgets-gst
+ google-gadgets-xul
+ kappfinder
+ kcalc
+ kcharselect
+ kde-core
+ kde-plasma-desktop
+ kde-standard
+ kde-window-manager
+ kdeartwork
+ kdeartwork-emoticons
+ kdeartwork-style
+ kdeartwork-theme-icon
+ kdebase
+ kdebase-apps
+ kdebase-workspace
+ kdebase-workspace-bin
+ kdebase-workspace-data
+ kdeeject
+ kdelibs
+ kdeplasma-addons
+ kdeutils
+ kdewallpapers
+ kdf
+ kfloppy
+ kgpg
+ khelpcenter4
+ kinfocenter
+ konq-plugins-l10n
+ konqueror-nsplugins
+ kscreensaver
+ kscreensaver-xsavers
+ ktimer
+ kwrite
+ libgle3
+ libkde4-ruby1.8
+ libkonq5
+ libkonq5-templates
+ libnetpbm10
+ libplasma-ruby
+ libplasma-ruby1.8
+ libqt4-ruby1.8
+ marble-data
+ marble-plugins
+ netpbm
+ nuvola-icon-theme
+ plasma-dataengines-workspace
+ plasma-desktop
+ plasma-desktopthemes-artwork
+ plasma-runners-addons
+ plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets
+ plasma-scriptengine-python
+ plasma-scriptengine-qedje
+ plasma-scriptengine-ruby
+ plasma-scriptengine-webkit
+ plasma-scriptengines
+ plasma-wallpapers-addons
+ plasma-widget-folderview
+ plasma-widget-networkmanagement
+ ruby
+ sweeper
+ update-notifier-kde
+ xscreensaver-data-extra
+ xscreensaver-gl
+ xscreensaver-gl-extra
+ xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ ark
+ google-gadgets-common
+ google-gadgets-qt
+ htdig
+ kate
+ kdebase-bin
+ kdebase-data
+ kdepasswd
+ kfind
+ klipper
+ konq-plugins
+ konqueror
+ ksysguard
+ ksysguardd
+ libarchive1
+ libcln6
+ libeet1
+ libeina-svn-06
+ libggadget-1.0-0b
+ libggadget-qt-1.0-0b
+ libgps19
+ libkdecorations4
+ libkephal4
+ libkonq4
+ libkonqsidebarplugin4a
+ libkscreensaver5
+ libksgrd4
+ libksignalplotter4
+ libkunitconversion4
+ libkwineffects1a
+ libmarblewidget4
+ libntrack-qt4-1
+ libntrack0
+ libplasma-geolocation-interface4
+ libplasmaclock4a
+ libplasmagenericshell4
+ libprocesscore4a
+ libprocessui4a
+ libqalculate5
+ libqedje0a
+ libqtruby4shared2
+ libqzion0a
+ libruby1.8
+ libscim8c2a
+ libsmokekdecore4-3
+ libsmokekdeui4-3
+ libsmokekfile3
+ libsmokekhtml3
+ libsmokekio3
+ libsmokeknewstuff2-3
+ libsmokeknewstuff3-3
+ libsmokekparts3
+ libsmokektexteditor3
+ libsmokekutils3
+ libsmokenepomuk3
+ libsmokephonon3
+ libsmokeplasma3
+ libsmokeqtcore4-3
+ libsmokeqtdbus4-3
+ libsmokeqtgui4-3
+ libsmokeqtnetwork4-3
+ libsmokeqtopengl4-3
+ libsmokeqtscript4-3
+ libsmokeqtsql4-3
+ libsmokeqtsvg4-3
+ libsmokeqttest4-3
+ libsmokeqtuitools4-3
+ libsmokeqtwebkit4-3
+ libsmokeqtxml4-3
+ libsmokesolid3
+ libsmokesoprano3
+ libtaskmanager4a
+ libtidy-0.99-0
+ libweather-ion4a
+ libxklavier16
+ libxxf86misc1
+ okteta
+ oxygencursors
+ plasma-dataengines-addons
+ plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba
+ plasma-widget-lancelot
+ plasma-widgets-addons
+ plasma-widgets-workspace
+ polkit-kde-1
+ ruby1.8
+ systemsettings
+ update-notifier-common
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>Running apt-get autoremove made the results using apt-get and
+aptitude a bit more similar, but there are still quite a lott of
+differences. I have no idea what packages should be installed after
+the upgrade, but hope those that do can have a look.</p>
</div>
<div class="tags">
<div class="padding"></div>
<div class="entry">
- <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/__pne_tr__dl__snett_er_et_samfunnsgode.html">Åpne trådløsnett er et samfunnsgode</a></div>
- <div class="date">2010-06-12 12:45</div>
+ <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Migrating_Xen_virtual_machines_using_LVM_to_KVM_using_disk_images.html">Migrating Xen virtual machines using LVM to KVM using disk images</a></div>
+ <div class="date">2010-11-22 11:20</div>
<div class="body">
-<p>Veldig glad for å oppdage via
-<a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/06/11/1841256/Finland-To-Legalize-Use-of-Unsecured-Wi-Fi">Slashdot</a>
-at folk i Finland har forstått at åpne trådløsnett er et samfunnsgode.
-Jeg ser på åpne trådløsnett som et fellesgode på linje med retten til
-ferdsel i utmark og retten til å bevege seg i strandsonen. Jeg har
-glede av åpne trådløsnett når jeg finner dem, og deler gladelig nett
-med andre så lenge de ikke forstyrrer min bruk av eget nett.
-Nettkapasiteten er sjelden en begrensning ved normal browsing og enkel
-SSH-innlogging (som er min vanligste nettbruk), og nett kan brukes til
-så mye positivt og nyttig (som nyhetslesing, sjekke været, kontakte
-slekt og venner, holde seg oppdatert om politiske saker, kontakte
-organisasjoner og politikere, etc), at det for meg er helt urimelig å
-blokkere dette for alle som ikke gjør en flue fortred. De som mener
-at potensialet for misbruk er grunn nok til å hindre all den positive
-og lovlydige bruken av et åpent trådløsnett har jeg dermed ingen
-forståelse for. En kan ikke eksistensen av forbrytere styre hvordan
-samfunnet skal organiseres. Da får en et kontrollsamfunn de færreste
-ønsker å leve i, og det at vi har et samfunn i Norge der tilliten til
-hverandre er høy gjør at samfunnet fungerer ganske godt. Det bør vi
-anstrenge oss for å beholde.</p>
+<p>Most of the computers in use by the
+<a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu/Skolelinux project</a>
+are virtual machines. And they have been Xen machines running on a
+fairly old IBM eserver xseries 345 machine, and we wanted to migrate
+them to KVM on a newer Dell PowerEdge 2950 host machine. This was a
+bit harder that it could have been, because we set up the Xen virtual
+machines to get the virtual partitions from LVM, which as far as I
+know is not supported by KVM. So to migrate, we had to convert
+several LVM logical volumes to partitions on a virtual disk file.</p>
+
+<p>I found
+<a href="http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/35011-Six-steps-for-migrating-Xen-virtual-machines-to-KVM">a
+nice recipe</a> to do this, and wrote the following script to do the
+migration. It uses qemu-img from the qemu package to make the disk
+image, parted to partition it, losetup and kpartx to present the disk
+image partions as devices, and dd to copy the data. I NFS mounted the
+new servers storage area on the old server to do the migration.</p>
+
+<pre>
+#!/bin/sh
+
+# Based on
+# http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/35011-Six-steps-for-migrating-Xen-virtual-machines-to-KVM
+
+set -e
+set -x
+
+if [ -z "$1" ] ; then
+ echo "Usage: $0 <hostname>"
+ exit 1
+else
+ host="$1"
+fi
+
+if [ ! -e /dev/vg_data/$host-disk ] ; then
+ echo "error: unable to find LVM volume for $host"
+ exit 1
+fi
+
+# Partitions need to be a bit bigger than the LVM LVs. not sure why.
+disksize=$( lvs --units m | grep $host-disk | awk '{sum = sum + $4} END { print int(sum * 1.05) }')
+swapsize=$( lvs --units m | grep $host-swap | awk '{sum = sum + $4} END { print int(sum * 1.05) }')
+totalsize=$(( ( $disksize + $swapsize ) ))
+
+img=$host.img
+#dd if=/dev/zero of=$img bs=1M count=$(( $disksize + $swapsize ))
+qemu-img create $img ${totalsize}MMaking room on the Debian Edu/Sqeeze DVD
+
+parted $img mklabel msdos
+parted $img mkpart primary linux-swap 0 $disksize
+parted $img mkpart primary ext2 $disksize $totalsize
+parted $img set 1 boot on
+
+modprobe dm-mod
+losetup /dev/loop0 $img
+kpartx -a /dev/loop0
+
+dd if=/dev/vg_data/$host-disk of=/dev/mapper/loop0p1 bs=1M
+fsck.ext3 -f /dev/mapper/loop0p1 || true
+mkswap /dev/mapper/loop0p2
+
+kpartx -d /dev/loop0
+losetup -d /dev/loop0
+</pre>
+
+<p>The script is perhaps so simple that it is not copyrightable, but
+if it is, it is licenced using GPL v2 or later at your discretion.</p>
+
+<p>After doing this, I booted a Debian CD in rescue mode in KVM with
+the new disk image attached, installed grub-pc and linux-image-686 and
+set up grub to boot from the disk image. After this, the KVM machines
+seem to work just fine.</p>
</div>
<div class="tags">
- Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet</a>.
+ Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
</div>
</div>
<div class="padding"></div>
<div class="entry">
- <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_upgrade_testing_from_Lenny_to_Squeeze.html">Automatic upgrade testing from Lenny to Squeeze</a></div>
- <div class="date">2010-06-11 22:50</div>
+ <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__apt_vs_aptitude_with_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop.html">Lenny->Squeeze upgrades, apt vs aptitude with the Gnome and KDE desktop</a></div>
+ <div class="date">2010-11-20 22:50</div>
<div class="body">
-<p>The last few days I have done some upgrade testing in Debian, to
-see if the upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze will go smoothly. A few bugs
-have been discovered and reported in the process
-(<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/585410">#585410</a> in nagios3-cgi,
-<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/584879">#584879</a> already fixed in
-enscript and <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/584861">#584861</a> in
-kdebase-workspace-data), and to get a more regular testing going on, I
-am working on a script to automate the test.</p>
-
-<p>The idea is to create a Lenny chroot and use tasksel to install a
-Gnome or KDE desktop installation inside the chroot before upgrading
-it. To ensure no services are started in the chroot, a policy-rc.d
-script is inserted. To make sure tasksel believe it is to install a
-desktop on a laptop, the tasksel tests are replaced in the chroot
-(only acceptable because this is a throw-away chroot).</p>
-
-<p>A naive upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze using aptitude dist-upgrade
-currently always fail because udev refuses to upgrade with the kernel
-in Lenny, so to avoid that problem the file /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade
-is created. The bug report
-<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/566000">#566000</a> make me suspect
-this problem do not trigger in a chroot, but I touch the file anyway
-to make sure the upgrade go well. Testing on virtual and real
-hardware have failed me because of udev so far, and creating this file
-do the trick in such settings anyway. This is a
-<a href="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/failed-dist-upgrade-due-to-udev-config_sysfs_deprecated-nonsense-804130/">known
-issue</a> and the current udev behaviour is intended by the udev
-maintainer because he lack the resources to rewrite udev to keep
-working with old kernels or something like that. I really wish the
-udev upstream would keep udev backwards compatible, to avoid such
-upgrade problem, but given that they fail to do so, I guess
-documenting the way out of this mess is the best option we got for
-Debian Squeeze.</p>
-
-<p>Anyway, back to the task at hand, testing upgrades. This test
-script, which I call <tt>upgrade-test</tt> for now, is doing the
-trick:</p>
-
-<blockquote><pre>
-#!/bin/sh
-set -ex
-
-if [ "$1" ] ; then
- desktop=$1
-else
- desktop=gnome
-fi
-
-from=lenny
-to=squeeze
-
-exec < /dev/null
-unset LANG
-mirror=http://ftp.skolelinux.org/debian
-tmpdir=chroot-$from-upgrade-$to-$desktop
-fuser -mv .
-debootstrap $from $tmpdir $mirror
-chroot $tmpdir aptitude update
-cat > $tmpdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d <<EOF
-#!/bin/sh
-exit 101
-EOF
-chmod a+rx $tmpdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d
-exit_cleanup() {
- umount $tmpdir/proc
-}
-mount -t proc proc $tmpdir/proc
-# Make sure proc is unmounted also on failure
-trap exit_cleanup EXIT INT
-
-chroot $tmpdir aptitude -y install debconf-utils
-
-# Make sure tasksel autoselection trigger. It need the test scripts
-# to return the correct answers.
-echo tasksel tasksel/desktop multiselect $desktop | \
- chroot $tmpdir debconf-set-selections
-
-# Include the desktop and laptop task
-for test in desktop laptop ; do
- echo > $tmpdir/usr/lib/tasksel/tests/$test <<EOF
-#!/bin/sh
-exit 2
-EOF
- chmod a+rx $tmpdir/usr/lib/tasksel/tests/$test
-done
-
-DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
-DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical
-export DEBIAN_FRONTEND DEBIAN_PRIORITY
-chroot $tmpdir tasksel --new-install
-
-echo deb $mirror $to main > $tmpdir/etc/apt/sources.list
-chroot $tmpdir aptitude update
-touch $tmpdir/etc/udev/kernel-upgrade
-chroot $tmpdir aptitude -y dist-upgrade
-fuser -mv
-</pre></blockquote>
-
-<p>I suspect it would be useful to test upgrades with both apt-get and
-with aptitude, but I have not had time to look at how they behave
-differently so far. I hope to get a cron job running to do the test
-regularly and post the result on the web. The Gnome upgrade currently
-work, while the KDE upgrade fail because of the bug in
-kdebase-workspace-data</p>
-
-<p>I am not quite sure what kind of extract from the huge upgrade logs
-(KDE 167 KiB, Gnome 516 KiB) it make sense to include in this blog
-post, so I will refrain from trying. I can report that for Gnome,
-aptitude report 760 packages upgraded, 448 newly installed, 129 to
-remove and 1 not upgraded and 1024MB need to be downloaded while for
-KDE the same numbers are 702 packages upgraded, 507 newly installed,
-193 to remove and 0 not upgraded and 1117MB need to be downloaded</p>
-
-<p>I am very happy to notice that the Gnome desktop + laptop upgrade
-is able to migrate to dependency based boot sequencing and parallel
-booting without a hitch. Was unsure if there were still bugs with
-packages failing to clean up their obsolete init.d script during
-upgrades, and no such problem seem to affect the Gnome desktop+laptop
-packages.</p>
+<p>I'm still running upgrade testing of the
+<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">Lenny
+Gnome and KDE Desktop</a>, but have not had time to spend on reporting the
+status. Here is a short update based on a test I ran 20101118.</p>
+
+<p>I still do not know what a correct migration should look like, so I
+report any differences between apt and aptitude and hope someone else
+can see if anything should be changed.</p>
+
+<p>This is for Gnome:</p>
+
+<p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ apache2.2-bin aptdaemon at-spi baobab binfmt-support
+ browser-plugin-gnash cheese-common cli-common cpp-4.3 cups-pk-helper
+ dmz-cursor-theme empathy empathy-common finger
+ freedesktop-sound-theme freeglut3 gconf-defaults-service gdm-themes
+ gedit-plugins geoclue geoclue-hostip geoclue-localnet geoclue-manual
+ geoclue-yahoo gnash gnash-common gnome gnome-backgrounds
+ gnome-cards-data gnome-codec-install gnome-core
+ gnome-desktop-environment gnome-disk-utility gnome-screenshot
+ gnome-search-tool gnome-session-canberra gnome-spell
+ gnome-system-log gnome-themes-extras gnome-themes-more
+ gnome-user-share gs-common gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
+ gstreamer0.10-tools gtk2-engines gtk2-engines-pixbuf
+ gtk2-engines-smooth hal-info hamster-applet libapache2-mod-dnssd
+ libapr1 libaprutil1 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap
+ libart2.0-cil libatspi1.0-0 libboost-date-time1.42.0
+ libboost-python1.42.0 libboost-thread1.42.0 libchamplain-0.4-0
+ libchamplain-gtk-0.4-0 libcheese-gtk18 libclutter-gtk-0.10-0
+ libcryptui0 libcupsys2 libdiscid0 libeel2-data libelf1 libepc-1.0-2
+ libepc-common libepc-ui-1.0-2 libfreerdp-plugins-standard
+ libfreerdp0 libgail-common libgconf2.0-cil libgdata-common libgdata7
+ libgdl-1-common libgdu-gtk0 libgee2 libgeoclue0 libgexiv2-0 libgif4
+ libglade2.0-cil libglib2.0-cil libgmime2.4-cil libgnome-vfs2.0-cil
+ libgnome2.24-cil libgnomepanel2.24-cil libgnomeprint2.2-data
+ libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgnomevfs2-bin libgpod-common libgpod4
+ libgtk2.0-cil libgtkglext1 libgtksourceview-common
+ libgtksourceview2.0-common libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil
+ libmono-addins0.2-cil libmono-cairo2.0-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil
+ libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil libmono-posix2.0-cil
+ libmono-security2.0-cil libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
+ libmono-system2.0-cil libmtp8 libmusicbrainz3-6
+ libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil libndesk-dbus1.0-cil libopal3.6.8
+ libpolkit-gtk-1-0 libpt-1.10.10-plugins-alsa
+ libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l libpt2.6.7 libpython2.6 librpm1 librpmio1
+ libsdl1.2debian libservlet2.4-java libsrtp0 libssh-4
+ libtelepathy-farsight0 libtelepathy-glib0 libtidy-0.99-0
+ libxalan2-java libxerces2-java media-player-info mesa-utils
+ mono-2.0-gac mono-gac mono-runtime nautilus-sendto
+ nautilus-sendto-empathy openoffice.org-writer2latex
+ openssl-blacklist p7zip p7zip-full pkg-config python-4suite-xml
+ python-aptdaemon python-aptdaemon-gtk python-axiom
+ python-beautifulsoup python-bugbuddy python-clientform
+ python-coherence python-configobj python-crypto python-cupshelpers
+ python-cupsutils python-eggtrayicon python-elementtree
+ python-epsilon python-evolution python-feedparser python-gdata
+ python-gdbm python-gst0.10 python-gtkglext1 python-gtkmozembed
+ python-gtksourceview2 python-httplib2 python-louie python-mako
+ python-markupsafe python-mechanize python-nevow python-notify
+ python-opengl python-openssl python-pam python-pkg-resources
+ python-pyasn1 python-pysqlite2 python-rdflib python-serial
+ python-tagpy python-twisted-bin python-twisted-conch
+ python-twisted-core python-twisted-web python-utidylib python-webkit
+ python-xdg python-zope.interface remmina remmina-plugin-data
+ remmina-plugin-rdp remmina-plugin-vnc rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
+ rhythmbox-plugins rpm-common rpm2cpio seahorse-plugins shotwell
+ software-center svgalibg1 system-config-printer-udev
+ telepathy-gabble telepathy-mission-control-5 telepathy-salut tomboy
+ totem totem-coherence totem-mozilla totem-plugins
+ transmission-common xdg-user-dirs xdg-user-dirs-gtk xserver-xephyr
+ zip
+</p></blockquote>
+
+Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ arj bluez-utils cheese dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop ekiga eog
+ epiphany-extensions epiphany-gecko evolution-exchange
+ fast-user-switch-applet file-roller gcalctool gconf-editor gdm gedit
+ gedit-common gnome-app-install gnome-games gnome-games-data
+ gnome-nettool gnome-system-tools gnome-themes gnome-utils
+ gnome-vfs-obexftp gnome-volume-manager gnuchess gucharmap
+ guile-1.8-libs hal libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5
+ libavahi-ui0 libbind9-50 libbluetooth2 libcamel1.2-11 libcdio7
+ libcucul0 libcurl3 libdirectfb-1.0-0 libdmx1 libdvdread3
+ libedata-cal1.2-6 libedataserver1.2-9 libeel2-2.20 libepc-1.0-1
+ libepc-ui-1.0-1 libexchange-storage1.2-3 libfaad0 libgadu3
+ libgalago3 libgd2-noxpm libgda3-3 libgda3-common libggz2 libggzcore9
+ libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-0 libgksuui1.0-1 libgmyth0 libgnome-desktop-2
+ libgnome-pilot2 libgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomeprint2.2-0
+ libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtk-vnc-1.0-0
+ libgtkhtml2-0 libgtksourceview1.0-0 libgtksourceview2.0-0
+ libgucharmap6 libhesiod0 libicu38 libisccc50 libisccfg50 libiw29
+ libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libkpathsea4 liblircclient0 libltdl3 liblwres50
+ libmagick++10 libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmozjs1d libmpfr1ldbl libmtp7
+ libmysqlclient15off libnautilus-burn4 libneon27 libnm-glib0
+ libnm-util0 libopal-2.2 libosp5 libparted1.8-10 libpisock9
+ libpisync1 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3 libpt-1.10.10 libraw1394-8
+ libsdl1.2debian-alsa libsensors3 libsexy2 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-8
+ libspeexdsp1 libssh2-1 libsuitesparse-3.1.0 libsvga1
+ libswfdec-0.6-90 libtalloc1 libtotem-plparser10 libtrackerclient0
+ libvoikko1 libxalan2-java-gcj libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12
+ libxtrap6 libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3 mysql-common rhythmbox seahorse
+ sound-juicer swfdec-gnome system-config-printer totem-common
+ totem-gstreamer transmission-gtk vinagre vino w3c-dtd-xhtml wodim
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+[nothing]
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>This is for KDE:</p>
+
+<p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ autopoint bomber bovo cantor cantor-backend-kalgebra cpp-4.3 dcoprss
+ edict espeak espeak-data eyesapplet fifteenapplet finger gettext
+ ghostscript-x git gnome-audio gnugo granatier gs-common
+ gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio indi kaddressbook-plugins kalgebra
+ kalzium-data kanjidic kapman kate-plugins kblocks kbreakout kbstate
+ kde-icons-mono kdeaccessibility kdeaddons-kfile-plugins
+ kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-theme-window
+ kdeedu kdeedu-data kdeedu-kvtml-data kdegames kdegames-card-data
+ kdegames-mahjongg-data kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelirc
+ kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
+ kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdessh kdetoys kdewebdev
+ kdiamond kdnssd kfilereplace kfourinline kgeography-data kigo
+ killbots kiriki klettres-data kmoon kmrml knewsticker-scripts
+ kollision kpf krosspython ksirk ksmserver ksquares kstars-data
+ ksudoku kubrick kweather libasound2-plugins libboost-python1.42.0
+ libcfitsio3 libconvert-binhex-perl libcrypt-ssleay-perl libdb4.6++
+ libdjvulibre-text libdotconf1.0 liberror-perl libespeak1
+ libfinance-quote-perl libgail-common libgsl0ldbl libhtml-parser-perl
+ libhtml-tableextract-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl
+ libio-stringy-perl libkdeedu4 libkdegames5 libkiten4 libkpathsea5
+ libkrossui4 libmailtools-perl libmime-tools-perl
+ libnews-nntpclient-perl libopenbabel3 libportaudio2 libpulse-browse0
+ libservlet2.4-java libspeechd2 libtiff-tools libtimedate-perl
+ libunistring0 liburi-perl libwww-perl libxalan2-java libxerces2-java
+ lirc luatex marble networkstatus noatun-plugins
+ openoffice.org-writer2latex palapeli palapeli-data parley
+ parley-data poster psutils pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat
+ pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils quanta-data rocs rsync
+ speech-dispatcher step svgalibg1 texlive-binaries texlive-luatex
+ ttf-sazanami-gothic
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ amor artsbuilder atlantik atlantikdesigner blinken bluez-utils cvs
+ dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop imlib-base imlib11 kalzium kanagram kandy
+ kasteroids katomic kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox kbounce kbruch
+ kcron kdat kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdeprint kdict kdvi kedit
+ keduca kenolaba kfax kfaxview kfouleggs kgeography kghostview
+ kgoldrunner khangman khexedit kiconedit kig kimagemapeditor
+ kitchensync kiten kjumpingcube klatin klettres klickety klines
+ klinkstatus kmag kmahjongg kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmines
+ kmousetool kmouth kmplot knetwalk kodo kolf kommander konquest kooka
+ kpager kpat kpdf kpercentage kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler krec
+ kregexpeditor kreversi ksame ksayit kshisen ksig ksim ksirc ksirtet
+ ksmiletris ksnake ksokoban kspaceduel kstars ksvg ksysv kteatime
+ ktip ktnef ktouch ktron kttsd ktuberling kturtle ktux kuickshow
+ kverbos kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kwordquiz
+ kworldclock kxsldbg libakode2 libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile
+ libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libavahi-compat-libdnssd1
+ libavahi-core5 libavc1394-0 libbind9-50 libbluetooth2
+ libboost-python1.34.1 libcucul0 libcurl3 libcvsservice0
+ libdirectfb-1.0-0 libdjvulibre21 libdvdread3 libfaad0 libfreebob0
+ libgd2-noxpm libgraphviz4 libgsmme1c2a libgtkhtml2-0 libicu38
+ libiec61883-0 libindex0 libisccc50 libisccfg50 libiw29
+ libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libk3b3 libkcal2b libkcddb1 libkdeedu3
+ libkdegames1 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkleopatra1 libkmime2
+ libkpathsea4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1
+ libksieve0 libktnef1 liblockdev1 libltdl3 liblwres50 libmagick10
+ libmimelib1c2a libmodplug0c2 libmozjs1d libmpcdec3 libmpfr1ldbl
+ libneon27 libnm-util0 libopensync0 libpisock9 libpoppler-glib3
+ libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler3 libraw1394-8 librss1 libsensors3
+ libsmbios2 libssh2-1 libsuitesparse-3.1.0 libswfdec-0.6-90
+ libtalloc1 libxalan2-java-gcj libxerces2-java-gcj libxtrap6 lskat
+ mpeglib network-manager-kde noatun pmount tex-common texlive-base
+ texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-recommended tidy
+ ttf-dustin ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-sjfonts
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ dolphin kde-core kde-plasma-desktop kde-standard kde-window-manager
+ kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-apps kdebase-workspace
+ kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdeutils kscreensaver
+ kscreensaver-xsavers libgle3 libkonq5 libkonq5-templates libnetpbm10
+ netpbm plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-networkmanagement
+ xscreensaver-data-extra xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver-gl-extra
+ xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
+</p></blockquote>
+
+<p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get</p>
+
+<blockquote><p>
+ kdebase-bin konq-plugins konqueror
+</p></blockquote>
</div>
<div class="tags">
- Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/
bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
+ Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
</div>
</div>
<div class="padding"></div>
<div class="entry">
- <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_er_laget_for_sentraldrifting__naturligvis.html">Skolelinux er laget for sentraldrifting, naturligvis</a></div>
- <div class="date">2010-06-09 12:30</div>
+ <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gnash_buildbot_slave_and_Debian_kfreebsd.html">Gnash buildbot slave and Debian kfreebsd</a></div>
+ <div class="date">2010-11-20 07:20</div>
<div class="body">
-<p>Det er merkelig hvordan myter om Skolelinux overlever. En slik
-myte er at Skolelinux ikke kan sentraldriftes og ha sentralt plasserte
-tjenermaskiner. I siste Computerworld Norge er
-<a href="http://www.idg.no/computerworld/article169432.ece">IT-sjef
-Viggo Billdal i Steinkjer intervjuet</a>, og forteller uten
-blygsel:</p>
-
-<blockquote><p>Vi hadde Skolelinux, men det har vi sluttet med. Vi testet
-om det lønte seg med Microsoft eller en åpen plattform. Vi fant ut at
-Microsoft egentlig var totalt sett bedre egnet. Det var store
-driftskostnader med Skolelinux, blant annet på grunn av
-desentraliserte servere. Det var komplisert, så vi gikk vekk fra det
-og bruker nå bare Windows.</p></blockquote>
-
-<p>En <a
-href="https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/bruker/2010-June/009101.html">rask
-sjekk</a> mot den norske brukerlista i Skolelinuxprosjektet forteller
-at Steinkjers forsøk foregikk fram til 2004/2005, og at Røysing skole
-i Steinkjer skal ha vært svært fornøyd med Skolelinux men at kommunen
-overkjørte skolen og krevde at de gikk over til Windows. Et søk på
-nettet sendte meg til
-<a href="http://www.dn.no/multimedia/archive/00090/Dagens_it_nr__18_90826a.pdf">Dagens
-IT nr. 18 2005</a> hvor en kan lese på side 18:</p>
-
-<blockquote><p>Inge Tømmerås ved Røysing skole i Steinkjer kjører ennå
-Microsoft, men forteller at kompetanseutfordringen med Skolelinux ikke
-var så stor. Jeg syntes Skolelinux var utrolig lett å drifte uten
-forkunnskaper. Men man må jo selvsagt ha tilgang på ekstern kompetanse
-til installasjoner og maskinvarefeil, sier Tømmerås.</p></blockquote>
-
-<p>Som systemarkitekten bak Skolelinux, kan jeg bare riste på hodet
-over påstanden om at Skolelinux krever desentraliserte tjenere.
-Skolelinux-arkitekturen er laget for sentralisert drift og plassering
-av tjenerne lokalt eller sentralt alt etter behov og nettkapasitet.
-Den er modellert på nettverks- og tjenerløsningen som brukes på
-Universitetet i Tromsø og Oslo, der jeg jobber med utvikling av
-driftstjenester. Dette er det heldigvis noen som har fått med seg, og
-jeg er glad for å kunne sitere fra en kommentar på den overnevnte
-artikkelen. Min venn og gamle kollega Sturle Sunde forteller der:
-
-<blockquote>
-<p>I Flora kommune køyrer vi Skulelinux på skular med alt frå 15 til
-meir enn 500 elevar. Dei store skulane har eigen tenar, for det er
-mest praktisk. Eg, som er driftsansvarleg for heile nettet, ser
-sjeldan dei tenarane fysisk, men at dei står der gjer skulane mindre
-avhengige av eksterne linjer som er trege eller dyre. Dei minste
-skulane har ikkje eigen tenar. Å bruke sentral tenar er heller ikkje
-noko problem. Småskulane klarar seg fint med 1 mbit-linje til ein
-sentral tenar eller tenaren på ein større skule.</p>
-
-<p>Det beste med Skulelinux er halvtjukke klientar. Dei treng ikkje
-harddisk og brukar minimalt med ressursar på tenaren fordi dei køyrer
-programma lokalt. Eit klasserom med 30 sju-åtte år gamle maskiner har
-mykje meir CPU og RAM totalt enn nokon moderne tenar til under
-millionen. Det trengst to kommandoar på den sentrale tenaren for å
-oppdatere alle klientane, både tynne og halvtjukke. Vi har ingen
-problem med diskar som ryk heller, som var eit problem før fordi
-elevane sat og sparka i maskinene. Og dei krev lite bandbreidde i
-nettet, so det er fullt mogleg å køyre slike på småskular med trege
-linjer mot tenaren på ein større skule.</p>
-
-<p>Flora kommune har nesten 800 Linux-maskiner i sitt skulenett, og
-ein person som tek seg av drift av heile nettet, inkludert tenarar,
-klientar, operativsystem, programvare, heimekontorløysing og
-administrasjon av brukarar.</p>
-
-<p>No skal det seiast at vi ikkje køyrer rein Skulelinux ut av
-boksen. Vi har gjort ein del tilpassingar mot noko Novell-greier som
-var der frå før, og som har komplisert installasjonen vår. Etter at
-oppsettet var gjort har løysinga vore stabil og kravd minimalt med
-arbeid.</p>
-</blockquote>
-
-<p>Jeg vet at Narvik, Harstad og Oslo er kommuner der Skolelinux
-sentraldriftes med sentrale tjenere. Det forteller meg at Steinkjers
-IT-sjef neppe bør skylde på Skolelinux-løsningen for sine 5 år gamle
-minner.</p>
+<p>Answering
+<a href="http://www.listware.net/201011/gnash-dev/67431-gnash-dev-buildbot-looking-for-slaves.html">the
+call from the Gnash project</a> for
+<a href="http://www.gnashdev.org:8010">buildbot</a> slaves to test the
+current source, I have set up a virtual KVM machine on the Debian
+Edu/Skolelinux virtualization host to test the git source on
+Debian/Squeeze. I hope this can help the developers in getting new
+releases out more often.</p>
+
+<p>As the developers want less main-stream build platforms tested to,
+I have considered setting up a <a
+href="http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/">Debian/kfreebsd</a>
+machine as well. I have also considered using the kfreebsd
+architecture in Debian as a file server in NUUG to get access to the 5
+TB zfs volume we currently use to store DV video. Because of this, I
+finally got around to do a test installation of Debian/Squeeze with
+kfreebsd. Installation went fairly smooth, thought I noticed some
+visual glitches in the cdebconf dialogs (black cursor left on the
+screen at random locations). Have not gotten very far with the
+testing. Noticed cfdisk did not work, but fdisk did so it was not a
+fatal problem. Have to spend some more time on it to see if it is
+useful as a file server for NUUG. Will try to find time to set up a
+gnash buildbot slave on the Debian Edu/Skolelinux this weekend.</p>
</div>
<div class="tags">
- Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian
edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
+ Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian
">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
</div>
</div>
<div class="padding"></div>
<div class="entry">
- <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Upstart_or_sysvinit___as_init_d_scripts_see_it.html">Upstart or sysvinit - as init.d scripts see it</a></div>
- <div class="date">2010-06-06 23:55</div>
+ <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/N___er_74_norske_overv__kningskamera_registert_i_OpenStreetmap_org.html">Nå er 74 norske overvåkningskamera registert i OpenStreetmap.org</a></div>
+ <div class="date">2010-11-18 11:25</div>
<div class="body">
-<p>If Debian is to migrate to upstart on Linux, I expect some init.d
-scripts to migrate (some of) their operations to upstart job while
-keeping the init.d for hurd and kfreebsd. The packages with such
-needs will need a way to get their init.d scripts to behave
-differently when used with sysvinit and with upstart. Because of
-this, I had a look at the environment variables set when a init.d
-script is running under upstart, and when it is not.</p>
-
-<p>With upstart, I notice these environment variables are set when a
-script is started from rcS.d/ (ignoring some irrelevant ones like
-COLUMNS):</p>
-
-<blockquote><pre>
-DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL=2
-previous=N
-PREVLEVEL=
-RUNLEVEL=
-runlevel=S
-UPSTART_EVENTS=startup
-UPSTART_INSTANCE=
-UPSTART_JOB=rc-sysinit
-</pre></blockquote>
-
-<p>With sysvinit, these environment variables are set for the same
-script.</p>
-
-<blockquote><pre>
-INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.88
-previous=N
-PREVLEVEL=N
-RUNLEVEL=S
-runlevel=S
-</pre></blockquote>
-
-<p>The RUNLEVEL and PREVLEVEL environment variables passed on from
-sysvinit are not set by upstart. Not sure if it is intentional or not
-to not be compatible with sysvinit in this regard.</p>
-
-<p>For scripts needing to behave differently when upstart is used,
-looking for the UPSTART_JOB environment variable seem to be a good
-choice.</p>
+<p>Jeg oppdaterte nettopp kartet med overvåkningskamera som
+<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Kart_over_overv__kningskamera_i_Norge.html">jeg
+startet</a> for ca. et og et halvt år siden, og nå er det 74 kamera på
+plass. I prosessen med å oppdatere kartet oppdaget jeg ved en
+tilfeldighet at webreferansen til registermeldingen hos Datatilsynet
+nå ikke lenger er gyldig (se
+<a href="http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_view.pl?id=31062">tidligere
+melding</a>). Antar Datatilsynet fjerner utdaterte meldinger fra
+databasen. Konsekvensen blir at kameraoversikten i OSM må ha med
+søkekriteriene som ble brukt for å finne registermeldingen
+(dvs. virksomhetsnavn og organisasjonsnummer), slik at eventuelt nye
+meldinger for samme kamera kan finnes igjen.</p>
+
+<p>Det er dukket opp kamera på
+<a href="http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/">kartet</a>
+i Bergensområdet, Stavangerområdet, Osloområdet, Gjøvikområdet og i
+Troms. Mange områder og kamera mangler, og jeg er overbevist om at
+bare en brøkdel av den enorme mengden kamera som nå finnes i det
+offentlige rom er registrert så langt. Instrukser for å legge inn
+kamera finnes på websiden for kartet hos
+<a href="http://personvern.no/wiki/index.php/Kameraovervåkning">personvernforeningen</a>.</p>
</div>
<div class="tags">
- Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
+ Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>.
</div>
</div>
<div class="padding"></div>
<div class="entry">
- <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/A_manual_for_standards_wars___.html">A manual for standards wars...</a></div>
- <div class="date">2010-06-06 14:15</div>
+ <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gjendikte_sangen__Copying_Is_Not_Theft__p___Norsk_.html">Gjendikte sangen "Copying Is Not Theft" på Norsk?</a></div>
+ <div class="date">2010-11-10 14:40</div>
<div class="body">
-<p>Via the
-<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/robweir/antic-atom/~3/QzU4RgoAGMg/weekly-links-10.html">blog
-of Rob Weir</a> I came across the very interesting essay named
-<a href="http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/shapiro/wars.pdf">The Art of
-Standards Wars</a> (PDF 25 pages). I recommend it for everyone
-following the standards wars of today.</p>
+<p>En genial liten sang om kopiering og tyveri er
+<a href="http://www.archive.org/details/CopyingIsNotTheft">Copying Is
+Not Theft</a> av Nina Paley. Den vil jeg at
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/">NUUG</a> skal sende på
+<a href="http://www.frikanalen.no/">Frikanalen</a>, men først må vi
+fikse norske undertekster eller dubbing. Og i og med at det er en
+sang, tror jeg den kanskje bør gjendiktes.
+
+Selve teksten finner en på bloggen til
+<a href="http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/12/15/minute-meme-1-copying-is-not-theft/">tekstforfatteren</a> og den ser slik ut:
+
+<p><blockquote>
+<p>Copying is not theft.
+<br>Stealing a thing leaves one less left
+<br>Copying it makes one thing more;
+<br>that's what copying's for.</p>
+
+<p>Copying is not theft.
+<br>If I copy yours you have it too
+<br>One for me and one for you
+<br>That's what copies can do</p>
+
+<p>If I steal your bicycle
+<br>you have to take the bus,
+<br>but if I just copy it
+<br>there's one for each of us!</p>
+
+<p>Making more of a thing,
+<br>that is what we call "copying"
+<br>Sharing ideas with everyone
+<br>That's why copying
+<br>is
+<br>FUN!</p>
+</blockquote></p>
+
+<p>Her er et naivt forsøk på oversettelse, uten noe forsøk på
+gjendiktning eller få det til å flyte sammen med melodien.</p>
+
+<p><blockquote>
+<p>Kopiering er ikke tyveri.
+<br>Stjeler du en ting er det en mindre igjen
+<br>Kopier den og det er ting til.
+<br>det er derfor vi har kopiering.</p>
+
+<p>Kopiering er ikke tyveri.
+<br>Hvis jeg kopierer din så har du den fortsatt
+<br>En for meg og en for deg.
+<br>Det er det kopier gir oss</p>
+
+<p>Hvis jeg stjeler sykkelen din
+<br>så må du ta bussen,
+<br>men hvis jeg bare kopierer den,
+<br>så får vi hver vår!</p>
+
+<p>Lage mer av en ting,
+<br>det er det vi kaller "kopiering".
+<br>Deler ideer med enhver
+<br>Det er derfor kopiering
+<br>er
+<br>MORSOMT!</p>
+</blockquote></p>
+
+<p>Hvis du har forslag til bedre oversettelse eller lyst til å bidra
+til å få denne sangen over i norsk språkdrakt, ta kontakt med video
+(at) nuug.no.</p>
</div>
<div class="tags">
- Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard</a>.
+ Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>.
</div>
</div>
<div class="padding"></div>
<div class="entry">
- <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Sitesummary_tip__Listing_computer_hardware_models_used_at_site.html">Sitesummary tip: Listing computer hardware models used at site</a></div>
- <div class="date">2010-06-03 12:05</div>
+ <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_in_3D.html">Debian in 3D</a></div>
+ <div class="date">2010-11-09 16:10</div>
<div class="body">
-<p>When using sitesummary at a site to track machines, it is possible
-to get a list of the machine types in use thanks to the DMI
-information extracted from each machine. The script to do so is
-included in the sitesummary package, and here is example output from
-the Skolelinux build servers:</p>
-
-<blockquote><pre>
-maintainer:~# /usr/lib/sitesummary/hardware-model-summary
- vendor count
- Dell Computer Corporation 1
- PowerEdge 1750 1
- IBM 1
- eserver xSeries 345 -[8670M1X]- 1
- Intel 2
- [no-dmi-info] 3
-maintainer:~#
-</pre></blockquote>
-
-<p>The quality of the report depend on the quality of the DMI tables
-provided in each machine. Here there are Intel machines without model
-information listed with Intel as vendor and mo model, and virtual Xen
-machines listed as [no-dmi-info]. One can add -l as a command line
-option to list the individual machines.</p>
-
-<p>A larger list is
-<a href="http://narvikskolen.no/sitesummary/">available from the the
-city of Narvik</a>, which uses Skolelinux on all their shools and also
-provide the basic sitesummary report publicly. In their report there
-are ~1400 machines. I know they use both Ubuntu and Skolelinux on
-their machines, and as sitesummary is available in both distributions,
-it is trivial to get all of them to report to the same central
-collector.</p>
+<p><img src="http://thingiverse-production.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/23/e0/c4/f9/2b/debswagtdose_preview_medium.jpg"></p>
+
+<p>3D printing is just great. I just came across this Debian logo in
+3D linked in from
+<a href="http://blog.thingiverse.com/2010/11/09/participatory-branding/">the
+thingiverse blog</a>.</p>
</div>
<div class="tags">
- Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary</a>.
+ Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
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<div class="entry">
- <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Togsatsing_p___norsk__mot_sykkel.html">Togsatsing på norsk, mot sykkel</a></div>
- <div class="date">2010-06-02 23:45</div>
+ <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Datatilsynet_mangler_verkt__yet_som_trengs_for____kontrollere_kameraoverv__kning.html">Datatilsynet mangler verktøyet som trengs for å kontrollere kameraovervåkning</a></div>
+ <div class="date">2010-11-09 14:35</div>
<div class="body">
-<p>Det står dårlig til med toget når en finner på å la det
-<a href="http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article3677060.ece">kappkjøre
-med sykkel</a>... Jeg tror det trengs strukturendringer for å få
-fikset på togproblemene i Norge.</p>
-
-<p>Mon tro hva toglinje mellom Narvik og Tromsø ville hatt slags
-effekt på området der?</p>
+<p>En stund tilbake ble jeg oppmerksom på at Datatilsynets verktøy for
+å holde rede på overvåkningskamera i Norge ikke var egnet til annet
+enn å lage statistikk, og ikke kunne brukes for å kontrollere om et
+overvåkningskamera i det offentlige rom er lovlig satt opp og
+registrert. For å teste hypotesen sendte jeg for noen dager siden
+følgende spørsmål til datatilsynet. Det omtalte kameraet står litt
+merkelig plassert i veigrøften ved gangstien langs Sandakerveien, og
+jeg lurer oppriktig på om det er lovlig plassert og registrert.</p>
+
+<p><blockquote>
+<p>Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:08:20 +0100
+<br>From: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com>
+<br>To: postkasse (at) datatilsynet.no
+<br>Subject: Er overvåkningskameraet korrekt registrert?</p>
+
+<p>Hei.</p>
+
+<p>I Nydalen i Oslo er det mange overvåkningskamera, og et av dem er
+spesielt merkelig plassert like over et kumlokk. Jeg lurer på om
+dette kameraet er korrekt registrert og i henhold til lovverket.</p>
+
+<p>Finner ingen eierinformasjon på kameraet, og dermed heller ingenting å
+søke på i <URL:
+<a href="http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_search.pl">http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_search.pl</a> >.
+Kartreferanse for kameraet er tilgjengelig fra
+<URL:
+<a href="http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/?zoom=17&lat=59.94918&lon=10.76962&layers=B0T">http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/?zoom=17&lat=59.94918&lon=10.76962&layers=B0T</a> >.
+
+<p>Kan dere fortelle meg om dette kameraet er registrert hos
+Datatilsynet som det skal være i henhold til lovverket?</p>
+
+<p>Det hadde forresten vært fint om rådata fra kameraregisteret var
+tilgjengelig på web og regelmessig oppdatert, for å kunne søke på
+andre ting enn organisasjonsnavn og -nummer ved å laste det ned og
+gjøre egne søk.</p>
+
+<p>Vennlig hilsen,
+<br>--
+<br>Petter Reinholdtsen
+</blockquote></p>
+
+<p>Her er svaret som kom dagen etter:</p>
+
+<p><blockquote>
+<p>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:44:09 +0100
+<br>From: "juridisk" <juridisk (at) Datatilsynet.no>
+<br>To: Petter Reinholdtsen
+<br>Subject: VS: Er overvåkningskameraet korrekt registrert?
+
+<p>Viser til e-post av 2. november.
+
+<p>Datatilsynet er det forvaltningsorganet som skal kontrollere at
+personopplysningsloven blir fulgt. Formålet med loven er å verne
+enkeltpersoner mot krenking av personvernet gjennom behandling av
+personopplysninger.</p>
+
+<p>Juridisk veiledningstjeneste hos Datatilsynet gir råd og veiledning
+omkring personopplysningslovens regler på generelt grunnlag.</p>
+
+<p>Datatilsynet har dessverre ikke en fullstendig oversikt over alle
+kameraer, den oversikten som finner er i vår meldingsdatabase som du
+finner her:
+<a href="http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____211.aspx">http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____211.aspx</a></p>
+
+<p>Denne databasen gir en oversikt over virksomheter som har meldt inn
+kameraovervåkning. Dersom man ikek vet hvilken virksomhet som er
+ansvarlig, er det heller ikke mulig for Datatilsynet å søke dette
+opp.</p>
+
+<p>Webkameraer som har så dårlig oppløsning at man ikke kan gjenkjenne
+enkeltpersoner er ikke meldepliktige, da dette ikke anses som
+kameraovervåkning i personopplysningslovens forstand. Dersom kameraet
+du sikter til er et slikt webkamera, vil det kanskje ikke finnes i
+meldingsdatabasen på grunn av dette. Også dersom et kamera med god
+oppløsning ikke filmer mennesker, faller det utenfor loven.</p>
+
+<p>Datatilsynet har laget en veileder som gjennomgår når det er lov å
+overvåke med kamera, se lenke:
+<a href="http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____401.aspx">http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____401.aspx</a></p>
+
+<p>Dersom det ikke er klart hvem som er ansvarlig for kameraet, er det
+vanskelig for Datatilsynet å ta kontakt med den ansvarlige for å få
+avklart om kameraet er satt opp i tråd med tilsynets regelverk. Dersom
+du mener at kameraet ikke er lovlig ut fra informasjonen ovenfor, kan
+kameraet anmeldes til politiet.</p>
+
+<p>Med vennlig hilsen</p>
+
+<p>Maria Bakke
+<br>Juridisk veiledningstjeneste
+<br>Datatilsynet</p>
+</blockquote></p>
+
+<p>Personlig synes jeg det bør være krav om å registrere hvert eneste
+overvåkningskamera i det offentlige rom hos Datatilsynet, med
+kartreferanse og begrunnelse om hvorfor det er satt opp, slik at
+enhver borger enkelt kan hente ut kart over områder vi er interessert
+i og sjekke om det er overvåkningskamera der som er satt opp uten å
+være registert. Slike registreringer skal jo i dag fornyes
+regelmessing, noe jeg mistenker ikke blir gjort. Dermed kan kamera
+som en gang var korrekt registrert nå være ulovlig satt opp. Det
+burde også være bøter for å ha kamera som ikke er korrekt registrert,
+slik at en ikke kan ignorere registrering uten at det får
+konsekvenser.</p>
+
+<p>En ide fra England som jeg har sans (lite annet jeg har sans for
+når det gjelder overvåkningskamera i England) for er at enhver borger
+kan be om å få kopi av det som er tatt opp med et overvåkningskamera i
+det offentlige rom, noe som gjør at det kan komme løpende utgifter ved
+å sette overvåkningskamera. Jeg tror alt som gjør det mindre
+attraktivt å ha overvåkningskamera i det offentlige rom er en god
+ting, så et slikt lovverk i Norge tror jeg hadde vært nyttig.</p>
</div>
<div class="tags">
- Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>.
+ Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet</a>.
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- <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/KDM_fail_at_boot_with_NVidia_cards___and_no_one_try_to_fix_it_.html">KDM fail at boot with NVidia cards - and no one try to fix it?</a></div>
- <div class="date">2010-06-01 17:05</div>
+ <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Making_room_on_the_Debian_Edu_Sqeeze_DVD.html">Making room on the Debian Edu/Sqeeze DVD</a></div>
+ <div class="date">2010-11-07 11:45</div>
<div class="body">
-<p>It is strange to watch how a bug in Debian causing KDM to fail to
-start at boot when an NVidia video card is used is handled. The
-problem seem to be that the nvidia X.org driver uses a long time to
-initialize, and this duration is longer than kdm is configured to
-wait.</p>
-
-<p>I came across two bugs related to this issue,
-<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/583312">#583312</a> initially filed
-against initscripts and passed on to nvidia-glx when it became obvious
-that the nvidia drivers were involved, and
-<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/524751">#524751</a> initially filed against
-kdm and passed on to src:nvidia-graphics-drivers for unknown reasons.</p>
-
-<p>To me, it seem that no-one is interested in actually solving the
-problem nvidia video card owners experience and make sure the Debian
-distribution work out of the box for these users. The nvidia driver
-maintainers expect kdm to be set up to wait longer, while kdm expect
-the nvidia driver maintainers to fix the driver to start faster, and
-while they wait for each other I guess the users end up switching to a
-distribution that work for them. I have no idea what the solution is,
-but I am pretty sure that waiting for each other is not it.</p>
-
-<p>I wonder why we end up handling bugs this way.</p>
+<p>Prioritising packages for the Debian Edu /
+<a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux</a> DVD, which is
+supposed provide a school with all the services and user applications
+needed on the pupils computer network has always been hard. Even
+schools without Internet connections should be able to get Debian Edu
+working using this DVD.</p>
+
+<p>The job became a lot harder when apt and aptitude started
+installing recommended packages by default. We want the same set of
+packages to be installed when using the DVD and the netinst CD, and
+that means all recommended packages need to be on the DVD. I created
+a patch for debian-cd in <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/601203">BTS
+report #601203</a> to do this, and since this change was applied to
+the Debian Edu DVD build, we have been seriously short on space.</p>
+
+<p>A few days ago we decided to drop blender, wxmaxima and kicad from
+the default installation to save space on the DVD, believing that
+those needing these applications are few and can get them from the
+Debian archive.</p>
+
+<p>Yesterday, I had a look what source packages to see which packages
+were using most space. A few large packages are well know;
+openoffice.org, openclipart and fluid-soundfont. But I also
+discovered that lilypond used 106 MiB and fglrx-driver used 53 MiB.
+The lilypond package is pulled in as a dependency for rosegarden, and
+when looking a bit closer I discovered that 99 MiB of the 106 MiB were
+the documentation package, which is recommended by the binary package.
+I decided to drop this documentation package from our DVD, as most of
+our users will use the GUI front-ends and do not need the lilypond
+documentation. Similarly, I dropped the non-free fglrx-driver package
+which might be installed by d-i when its hardware is detected, as the
+free X driver should work.</p>
+
+<p>With this change, we finally got space for the LXDE and Gnome
+desktop packages as well as the language specific packages making the
+DVD more useful again.</p>
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<div class="tags">
- Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
+ Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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-<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/06/">June (10)</a></li>
+<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/06/">June (14)</a></li>
+
+<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/07/">July (12)</a></li>
+
+<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/08/">August (13)</a></li>
+
+<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/09/">September (7)</a></li>
+
+<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/10/">October (9)</a></li>
+
+<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/11/">November (11)</a></li>
</ul></li>
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<ul>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer (11)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer (12)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/amiga">amiga (1)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem (10)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian (26)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian (42)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu (26)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu (50)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english (38)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english (71)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami (1)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling (7)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling (11)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (2)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (5)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lenker">lenker (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap (8)</a></li>
+
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lenker">lenker (4)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp (1)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia (5)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia (10)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk (68)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk (91)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug (76)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug (113)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (13)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (18)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern (12)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern (26)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/reprap">reprap (10)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/robot">robot (4)</a></li>
+
<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rss">rss (1)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet (9)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet (19)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary (3)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard (13)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard (16)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (1)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video (10)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video (15)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/vitenskap">vitenskap (1)</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web (6)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web (13)</a></li>
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