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-  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/St__tte_for_forskjellige_kamera_ikoner_p___overv__kningskamerakartet.html">Støtte for forskjellige kamera-ikoner på overvåkningskamerakartet</a></div>
-  <div class="date">2011-01-02 11:05</div>
+  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/1000_problemer_rapportert_via_FiksGataMi_p___litt_over_to_dager.html">1000 problemer rapportert via FiksGataMi på litt over to dager</a></div>
+  <div class="date">2011-03-09 23:45</div>

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-<p>I dag har jeg justert litt på kartet over overvåkningskamera, og
-laget støtte for å gi fotobokser (automatisk trafikk-kontroll) og
-andre overvåkningskamera forskjellige symboler på kartet, slik at det
-er enklere å se forskjell på kamera som vegvesenet kontrollerer og
-andre kamera.  Resultatet er lagt ut på
-<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/surveillance-norway/">kartet
-over overvåkningskamera i Norge</a>.  Det er nå 93 fotobokser og 80
-andre kamera på kartet, totalt 173 kamera.  Takk til de 26 stykkene
-som har bidratt til kamerainformasjonen så langt.</p>
+<p>Etter mandagens lansering av
+<a href="http://www.fiksgatami.no/">FiksGataMi</a> har responsen vært
+enorm, og de første 1000 problemene er allerede rapportert.  Noen
+saker er allerede løst, og responstiden til
+<a href="http://www.fiksgatami.no/report/490">Bø i Nordland</a> og
+<a href="http://www.fiksgatami.no/report/550">Melhus</a> imponerer
+stort.  Slikt burde gjøre innbyggerne der stolte. :)</p>
+
+<p>En utfordring for FiksGataMi er håndtering av fylkes- og riksveier
+som ikke skal til kommunen men til fylket eller staten.  Problemet er
+at vi mangler en datakilde som kan brukes til å identifisere hvilket
+geografisk område som administreres av fylket og staten (dvs. vei,
+grøfter, gjerder og slikt).  Det vi trenger er maskinlesbare
+georefererte eiendomsgrenser over eiendommene som hører til fylkes- og
+riksveier.  Når vi har det, kan vi videreutvikle fiksgatami til å
+håndtere eiendomsgrenser i tillegg til dagens kommune- og
+fylkesgrenser.  Så vi trenger datakilder uten bruksbegrensninger og
+litt finansiering for å ta dem i bruk.</p>
+
+<p>Men noen kommuner håndterer denne utfordringen elegant likevel og
+til det beste for innsender ved å sende saken videre til riktig
+instans og notere dette i FiksGataMi.  De første som gjorde dette var
+så vidt jeg kan se
+<a href=http://www.fiksgatami.no/report/385">Lørenskog</a>.  All kudos
+til dem!</p>
+
+<p>I morgen tidlig skal Christer på NRK Østlandssendingen og snakke om
+FiksGataMi.  Jeg gleder meg til å høre opptaket og se hvilken respons
+det fører til på innrapporteringen.  Jeg forsøker å holde
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/imedia.shtml">oversikt over omtalen</a>
+NUUG og FiksGataMi på NUUGs websider, og responsen så langt har vært
+veldig god.  De fleste kommunene er veldig positive til tjenesten.  De
+som hadde lignende løsninger er ikke så fornøyde, noe jeg kan forstå.
+På den positive siden får innbyggerne i disse kommunene nå et valg om
+hvilken løsning de vil benytte seg av, og konkurranse er en fin ting
+for å dyrke frem de beste løsningene. :)</p>

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-   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>. 
+   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>. 

   
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-  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/What_standards_are_Free_and_Open_as_defined_by_Digistan_.html">What standards are Free and Open as defined by Digistan?</a></div>
-  <div class="date">2010-12-30 23:15</div>
+  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/FiksGataMi_lansert__og_responsen_har_v__rt_overveldende.html">FiksGataMi lansert, og responsen har vært overveldende</a></div>
+  <div class="date">2011-03-08 15:30</div>

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-<p>After trying to
-<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Is_Ogg_Theora_a_free_and_open_standard_.html">compare
-Ogg Theora</a> to
-<a href="http://www.digistan.org/open-standard:definition">the Digistan
-definition</a> of a free and open standard, I concluded that this need
-to be done for more standards and started on a framework for doing
-this.  As a start, I want to get the status for all the standards in
-the Norwegian reference directory, which include UTF-8, HTML, PDF, ODF,
-JPEG, PNG, SVG and others.  But to be able to complete this in a
-reasonable time frame, I will need help.</p>
-
-<p>If you want to help out with this work, please visit
-<a href="http://wiki.nuug.no/grupper/standard/digistan-analyse">the
-wiki pages I have set up for this</a>, and let me know that you want
-to help out.  The IRC channel #nuug on irc.freenode.net is a good
-place to coordinate this for now, as it is the IRC channel for the
-NUUG association where I have created the framework (I am the leader
-of the Norwegian Unix User Group).</p>
-
-<p>The framework is still forming, and a lot is left to do.  Do not be
-scared by the sketchy form of the current pages. :)</p>
+<p>I går lanserte vi i <a href="http://www.nuug.no/">foreningen NUUG</a>
+<a href="http://www.fiksgatami.no/">FiksGataMi</a>, med
+<a href="http://lists.nuug.no/pipermail/interesserte/2011-March/000457.html">pressemelding
+på epost</a> til alle NUUGs annonseringsliste, medlemmene, alle
+landets redaksjoner og alle landets kommuner og fylkeskommuner.
+Responsen har vært formidabel, og vi har en enorm baklogg av
+henvendelser å følge opp.  Vi jobber oss sakte men sikkert igjennom
+stabelen.  Alt sendes til NUUGs RT-instans slik at ingen blir glemt.
+Hvis du har kommentarer og spørsmål, bruk
+<a href="http://www.fiksgatami.no/contact">kontaktfeltet</a> på
+FiksGatami, eller send epost til adressen som er oppgitt der.</p>
+
+<p>Pr nå er det kommet inn over 600 problemer som er rapportert videre
+til kommuner og fylker.  Jeg hentet ut fordelingen på kategorier nå
+nettopp, for å se hva som opptar innbyggerne rundt om i det ganske
+land.  Det er mest aktivitet i Trondheim, fulgt av Oslo og Bergen, men
+godt over 100 kommuner og fylker har fått meldinger fra innbyggerne
+via FiksGatami så langt.</p>
+
+<table>
+<tr><th>count</th><th>category</th></tr>
+<tr><td>398</td><td>Hull i vei</td></tr>
+<tr><td> 83</td><td>Gater/Veier</td></tr>
+<tr><td> 65</td><td>Snøbrøyting</td></tr>
+<tr><td> 54</td><td>Gatelys</td></tr>
+<tr><td> 46</td><td>Annet</td></tr>
+<tr><td> 30</td><td>Fortau/gangstier</td></tr>
+<tr><td> 17</td><td>Tette avløpsrister</td></tr>
+<tr><td> 10</td><td>Trafikkskilter</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  7</td><td>Parkering</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  7</td><td>Forlatte kjøretøy</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  4</td><td>Trafikklys</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  4</td><td>Sykkelveier</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  4</td><td>Forsøpling</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  3</td><td>Buss- og togstopp</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  3</td><td>Vannforsyning</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  3</td><td>Universell utforming</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  3</td><td>Trær</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  2</td><td>Graffiti/tagging</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  2</td><td>Dumpet skrot</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  1</td><td>Park/landskap</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  1</td><td>Ulovlige oppslag</td></tr>
+<tr><td>  1</td><td>Offentlige toaletter</td></td></tr>
+</table>
+
+<p>Det gjenstår endel jobb med skalering før vi er fornøyd med
+ytelsen, og så må vi få skrevet litt mer informasjon til kommunene om
+hvordan systemet fungerer, slik at de vet mer hvordan de kan bidra til
+å gjøre brukeropplevelsen for innbyggerne enda bedre.</p>
+
+<p>Til de som synes sitt lokalområde har dårlig kart, så er det bare
+en ting å si.  Bidra til å gjør <a href="">OpenStreetmap</a> bedre ved
+å tegne inn ditt lokalområde!  Eller få det offentlige til å gi ut
+bedre kartdata uten bruksbegrensninger. :)</p>
+
+<p>Jeg vil presentere FiksGataMi under
+<a href="http://www.goopen.no/fiksgatami-no/">Go Open 2011</a>, så vi
+ses kanskje der?</p>

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+   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>. 

   
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-  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_many_definitions_of_a_open_standard.html">The many definitions of a open standard</a></div>
-  <div class="date">2010-12-27 14:45</div>
+  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Astri_Sletteng.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Astri Sletteng</a></div>
+  <div class="date">2011-02-27 12:50</div>

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-<p>One of the reasons I like the Digistan definition of
-"<a href="http://www.digistan.org/open-standard:definition">Free and
-Open Standard</a>" is that this is a new term, and thus the meaning of
-the term has been decided by Digistan.  The term "Open Standard" has
-become so misunderstood that it is no longer very useful when talking
-about standards.  One end up discussing which definition is the best
-one and with such frame the only one gaining are the proponents of
-de-facto standards and proprietary solutions.</p>
-
-<p>But to give us an idea about the diversity of definitions of open
-standards, here are a few that I know about.  This list is not
-complete, but can be a starting point for those that want to do a
-complete survey.  More definitions are available on the
-<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard">wikipedia
-page</a>.</p>
-
-<p>First off is my favourite, the definition from the European
-Interoperability Framework version 1.0.  Really sad to notice that BSA
-and others has succeeded in getting it removed from version 2.0 of the
-framework by stacking the committee drafting the new version with
-their own people.  Anyway, the definition is still available and it
-include the key properties needed to make sure everyone can use a
-specification on equal terms.</p>
-
-<blockquote>
-
-<p>The following are the minimal characteristics that a specification
-and its attendant documents must have in order to be considered an
-open standard:</p>
+<p>En dame som har bidratt lenge til fri programvare i skoleverket og
+i foreningen som organiserer skolelinux-utviklersamlinger,
+<a href="http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">FRISK</a>, er neste
+intervjuoffer.  Det er en glede å her presentere en lærer fra Håkvik.</p>

 
 

-<ul>
-
-<li>The standard is adopted and will be maintained by a not-for-profit
-organisation, and its ongoing development occurs on the basis of an
-open decision-making procedure available to all interested parties
-(consensus or majority decision etc.).</li>
-
-<li>The standard has been published and the standard specification
-document is available either freely or at a nominal charge. It must be
-permissible to all to copy, distribute and use it for no fee or at a
-nominal fee.</li>
-
-<li>The intellectual property - i.e. patents possibly present - of
-(parts of) the standard is made irrevocably available on a royalty-
-free basis.</li>
-
-<li>There are no constraints on the re-use of the standard.</li>
-
-</ul>
-</blockquote>
-
-<p>Another one originates from my friends over at
-<a href="http://www.dkuug.dk/">DKUUG</a>, who coined and gathered
-support for <a href="http://www.aaben-standard.dk/">this
-definition</a> in 2004.  It even made it into the Danish parlament as
-<a href="http://www.ft.dk/dokumenter/tingdok.aspx?/samling/20051/beslutningsforslag/B103/som_fremsat.htm">their
-definition of a open standard</a>.  Another from a different part of
-the Danish government is available from the wikipedia page.</p>
-
-<blockquote>
+<p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?</strong></p>

 
 

-<p>En åben standard opfylder følgende krav:</p>
+<p>Jeg heter Astri Sletteng. Jeg er lærer og IKT veileder ved Håkvik
+skole i Narvik kommune.  Min bakgrunn når det gjelder IKT: Av formell
+utdannelse har jeg lærerutdanning, Master i skoleledelse og IKT for
+lærere. Har jobba som IKT veileder siden 2002.</p>

 
 

-<ol>
+<p>Det viktigste for meg som IKT veileder er å få fundamentert den
+5. basisferdigheten, digital kompetanse ved skolen min på en god måte
+slik at hele skolesamfunnet tar i bruk IKT i alle fag. Dette arbeidet
+gjøres i nært samarbeid med skolens ledelse.</p>

 
 

-<li>Veldokumenteret med den fuldstændige specifikation offentligt
-tilgængelig.</li>
+<p>Min viktigste jobb som IKT veileder er å være motivator og pådriver
+i IKT arbeidet ved skolen.</p>

 
 

-<li>Frit implementerbar uden økonomiske, politiske eller juridiske
-begrænsninger på implementation og anvendelse.</li>
+<p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?</strong></p>

 
 

-<li>Standardiseret og vedligeholdt i et åbent forum (en såkaldt
-"standardiseringsorganisation") via en åben proces.</li>
+<p>Jobber i en kommune hvor vi satser på Fri programvare. I 2004 ble
+det gjort et politisk vedtak om at vi skulle innføre Skolelinux ved
+alle skolene i kommunen. Jeg har dermed en god del erfaring med
+Skolelinux, samt annen fri programvare som Open Office, Joomla, Moodle
+etc.</p>

 
 

-</ol>
+<p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?</strong></p>

 
 

-</blockquote>
+<p>Siden vi jobber med åpen kildekode kan vi få programmene og
+produktene tilpasset vår bruk. Det er jo heller ikke en ulempe at
+skolen kommer bedre ut økonomisk, men først og fremst er det viktig
+for oss at vi har digitale systemer som gjør at vi kan følge
+læreplanen i alle fag. Det syns jeg at vi kan gjøre gjennom
+Skolelinux.</p>

 
 

-<p>Then there is <a href="http://www.fsfe.org/projects/os/def.html">the
-definition</a> from Free Software Foundation Europe.</p>
+<p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?</strong></p>

 
 

-<blockquote>
+<p>Skolen er avhengige av å ha folk på IT avdelinga i kommunen som kan
+drive support, og være tilgjengelige når vi trenger hjelp. Det er en
+ulempe at ikke alle på denne avdelingen nødvendigvis er god på
+Linux.</p>

 
 

-<p>An Open Standard refers to a format or protocol that is</p>
+<p>Vi har også noen utfordringer når det kommer til spesielle
+programmer som enkelte elever er avhengige av ? og som ikke er
+plattform uavhengige. Her har vi i Friprog-verden, men også
+departement en jobb å gjøre.</p>

 
 

-<ol>
+<p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?</strong></p>

 
 

-<li>subject to full public assessment and use without constraints in a
-manner equally available to all parties;</li>
+<p>Skolen vår bruker Skolelinux, Open Office, Iceweazel (Mozilla),
+VLC, Tux paint, Scribus, FreeMind, GIMP, digiKam, Ksnapshot, GeoGebra,
+Moodle (innført på alle klassetrinn + som et administrativt verktøy)
+og Joomla som hjemmeside.<p>

 
 

-<li>without any components or extensions that have dependencies on
-formats or protocols that do not meet the definition of an Open
-Standard themselves;</li>
+<p>Det er de jeg kommer på i farten. I tillegg har vi Smartboard
+installert på server, men det regnes vel ikke som fri programvare?</p>

 
 

-<li>free from legal or technical clauses that limit its utilisation by
-any party or in any business model;</li>
+<p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
+skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?</strong></p>

 
 

-<li>managed and further developed independently of any single vendor
-in a process open to the equal participation of competitors and third
-parties;</li>
-
-<li>available in multiple complete implementations by competing
-vendors, or as a complete implementation equally available to all
-parties.</li>
-
-</ol>
-
-</blockquote>
-
-<p>A long time ago, SUN Microsystems, now bought by Oracle, created
-its
-<a href="http://blogs.sun.com/dennisding/resource/Open%20Standard%20Definition.pdf">Open
-Standards Checklist</a> with a fairly detailed description.</p>
+<p>Først og fremst trenger skolen oppetider på sine datasystemer. Syns
+også at det at vi kan få tilpasset plattform og systemer til vår bruk
+er en god strategi å bruke.</p>
+</div>
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+   

 
 

-<blockquote>
-<p>Creation and Management of an Open Standard
+   
+   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>. 
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+ <div class="entry">
+  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Kategorisering_av_problemer_p___FiksGatami.html">Kategorisering av problemer på FiksGatami</a></div>
+  <div class="date">2011-02-27 10:15</div>
+  <div class="body">
+<p>Det nærmer seg lansering av NUUGs
+<a href="http://www.fiksgatami.no/">Fiksgatami-tjeneste</a>, og siste
+finpuss på kategorisering gjøres i disse dager.  Jeg har konkludert
+med at ideen om
+<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fiksgatami_tar_form___snart_klar_for_test.html">å
+ta utgangspunkt i eksisterende kommunale tjenesters kategorisering</a>
+er en dårlig ide da det er viktigere å kategorisere fra et
+brukersynspunkt enn å kategorisere ut fra hvordan kommunene er
+organisert internt.  Måtte dermed starte på nytt med
+kategoriarbeidet.</p>
+
+<p>Nå har jeg kommet opp med følgende forslag til kategorier, basert
+på de som er i bruk på den britiske originalen, innspill på
+IRC-kanalen til NUUG og folk rundt meg.  Tar gjerne imot innspill på
+kategoriene til epostlisten for prosjektet,
+<a href="http://lists.nuug.no/mailman/listinfo/fiksgatami">fiksgatami
+(at) nuug.no</a>.</p>
+
+<p>Av tekniske årsaker kan kun bokmålsoversettelsen av det engelske
+ordet 'Other' brukes som fellesbetegnelse for andre kategorier,
+dvs. at også nynorsk-kommuner ender opp med 'Annet' som samlekategori.
+Oversettelse av applikasjonen til nynorsk og nordsamisk får vente til
+noen sponser den utviklingen som trengs for å få det til.</p>
+
+<p>Her er så lista med kategorier jeg tror vi går i produksjon
+med:</p>

 
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-<li>Its development and management process must be collaborative and
-  democratic:
-
-         <ul>
-
-         <li>Participation must be accessible to all those who wish to
-            participate and can meet fair and reasonable criteria
-            imposed by the organization under which it is developed
-            and managed.</li>
-
-         <li>The processes must be documented and, through a known
-            method, can be changed through input from all
-            participants.</li>
-
-         <li>The process must be based on formal and binding commitments for
-            the disclosure and licensing of intellectual property rights.</li>
-
-         <li>Development and management should strive for consensus,
-            and an appeals process must be clearly outlined.</li>
-
-         <li>The standard specification must be open to extensive
-            public review at least once in its life-cycle, with
-            comments duly discussed and acted upon, if required.</li>
-
-         </ul>
-
-</li>
+  <li>Hull i veien</li>
+  <li>Gater/Veier</li>
+  <li>Fortau/gangstier</li>
+  <li>Veinavn-skilt</li>
+  <li>Sykkelvei</li>
+  <li>Glatt vei</li>
+  <li>Snøbrøyting</li>
+  <li>Gatelys</li>
+  <li>Dumpet skrot</li>
+  <li>Forsøpling</li>
+  <li>Parkering</li>
+  <li>Grafitti/tagging</li>
+  <li>Hundedritt</li>
+  <li>Gaterydding</li>
+  <li>Trafikkskilter</li>
+  <li>Forlatte kjøretøy</li>
+  <li>Trær</li>
+  <li>Trafikklys</li>
+  <li>Park/landskap</li>
+  <li>Ulovlige oppslag</li>
+  <li>Buss- og togstopp</li>
+  <li>Offentlige toalett</li>
+  <li>Vannforsyning</li>
+  <li>Tett avløpsrist</li>
+  <li>Oljesøl</li>
+  <li>Annet</li>

 
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-<p>Use and Licensing of an Open Standard</p>
-<ul>
-
-<li>The standard must describe an interface, not an implementation,
-  and the industry must be capable of creating multiple, competing
-  implementations to the interface described in the standard without
-  undue or restrictive constraints.  Interfaces include APIs,
-  protocols, schemas, data formats and their encoding.</li>
-
-<li> The standard must not contain any proprietary "hooks" that create
-  a technical or economic barriers</li>
-
-<li>Faithful implementations of the standard must
-  interoperate. Interoperability means the ability of a computer
-  program to communicate and exchange information with other computer
-  programs and mutually to use the information which has been
-  exchanged. This includes the ability to use, convert, or exchange
-  file formats, protocols, schemas, interface information or
-  conventions, so as to permit the computer program to work with other
-  computer programs and users in all the ways in which they are
-  intended to function.</li>
-
-<li>It must be permissible for anyone to copy, distribute and read the
-  standard for a nominal fee, or even no fee. If there is a fee, it
-  must be low enough to not preclude widespread use.</li>
-
-<li>It must be possible for anyone to obtain free (no royalties or
-  fees; also known as "royalty free"), worldwide, non-exclusive and
-  perpetual licenses to all essential patent claims to make, use and
-  sell products based on the standard.  The only exceptions are
-  terminations per the reciprocity and defensive suspension terms
-  outlined below. Essential patent claims include pending, unpublished
-  patents, published patents, and patent applications. The license is
-  only for the exact scope of the standard in question.
-
-      <ul>
-
-      <li> May be conditioned only on reciprocal licenses to any of
-        licensees' patent claims essential to practice that standard
-        (also known as a reciprocity clause)</li>
-
-      <li> May be terminated as to any licensee who sues the licensor
-        or any other licensee for infringement of patent claims
-        essential to practice that standard (also known as a
-        "defensive suspension" clause)</li>
-
-      <li> The same licensing terms are available to every potential
-        licensor</li>
-
-      </ul>
-</li>
-
-<li>The licensing terms of an open standards must not preclude
-  implementations of that standard under open source licensing terms
-  or restricted licensing terms</li>
+<p>Er disse forståelige?  Er det noen uforståelige overlapp?  Noen
+kategorier vi mangler som burde skilles ut fra 'Annet'?  Er det noen
+av disse kategoriene som ikke skal varsles til offentlig myndighet?
+Gi tilbakemelding innen midten av kommende uke hvis du vil ha et ord
+med i laget når det gjelder kategorisering.</p>

 
 

-</ul>
-
-</blockquote>
-
-<p>It is said that one of the nice things about standards is that
-there are so many of them.  As you can see, the same holds true for
-open standard definitions.  Most of the definitions have a lot in
-common, and it is not really controversial what properties a open
-standard should have, but the diversity of definitions have made it
-possible for those that want to avoid a level marked field and real
-competition to downplay the significance of open standards.  I hope we
-can turn this tide by focusing on the advantages of Free and Open
-Standards.</p>

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+   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>. 

   
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-  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Is_Ogg_Theora_a_free_and_open_standard_.html">Is Ogg Theora a free and open standard?</a></div>
-  <div class="date">2010-12-25 20:25</div>
+  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Konsekvenser_av_un__yaktige_kommunesgrenser_for_FiksGataMi.html">Konsekvenser av unøyaktige kommunesgrenser for FiksGataMi</a></div>
+  <div class="date">2011-02-22 14:00</div>

   <div class="body">
   <div class="body">

-<p><a href="http://www.digistan.org/open-standard:definition">The
-Digistan definition</a> of a free and open standard reads like this:</p>
-
-<blockquote>
-
-<p>The Digital Standards Organization defines free and open standard
-as follows:</p>
-
-<ol>
-
-<li>A free and open standard is immune to vendor capture at all stages
-in its life-cycle. Immunity from vendor capture makes it possible to
-freely use, improve upon, trust, and extend a standard over time.</li>
-
-<li>The standard is adopted and will be maintained by a not-for-profit
-organisation, and its ongoing development occurs on the basis of an
-open decision-making procedure available to all interested
-parties.</li>
-
-<li>The standard has been published and the standard specification
-document is available freely. It must be permissible to all to copy,
-distribute, and use it freely.</li>
-
-<li>The patents possibly present on (parts of) the standard are made
-irrevocably available on a royalty-free basis.</li>
-
-<li>There are no constraints on the re-use of the standard.</li>
-
-</ol>
-
-<p>The economic outcome of a free and open standard, which can be
-measured, is that it enables perfect competition between suppliers of
-products based on the standard.</p>
-</blockquote>
-
-<p>For a while now I have tried to figure out of Ogg Theora is a free
-and open standard according to this definition.  Here is a short
-writeup of what I have been able to gather so far.  I brought up the
-topic on the Xiph advocacy mailing list
-<a href="http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/advocacy/2009-July/001632.html">in
-July 2009</a>, for those that want to see some background information.
-According to Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves and Monty Montgomery on that list
-the Ogg Theora specification fulfils the Digistan definition.</p>
-
-<p><strong>Free from vendor capture?</strong></p>
-
-<p>As far as I can see, there is no single vendor that can control the
-Ogg Theora specification.  It can be argued that the
-<a href="http://www.xiph.org/">Xiph foundation</A> is such vendor, but
-given that it is a non-profit foundation with the expressed goal
-making free and open protocols and standards available, it is not
-obvious that this is a real risk.  One issue with the Xiph
-foundation is that its inner working (as in board member list, or who
-control the foundation) are not easily available on the web.  I've
-been unable to find out who is in the foundation board, and have not
-seen any accounting information documenting how money is handled nor
-where is is spent in the foundation.  It is thus not obvious for an
-external observer who control The Xiph foundation, and for all I know
-it is possible for a single vendor to take control over the
-specification.  But it seem unlikely.</p>
-
-<p><strong>Maintained by open not-for-profit organisation?</strong></p>
-
-<p>Assuming that the Xiph foundation is the organisation its web pages
-claim it to be, this point is fulfilled.  If Xiph foundation is
-controlled by a single vendor, it isn't, but I have not found any
-documentation indicating this.</p>
-
-<p>According to
-<a href="http://media.hiof.no/diverse/fad/rapport_4.pdf">a report</a>
-prepared by Audun Vaaler og Børre Ludvigsen for the Norwegian
-government, the Xiph foundation is a non-commercial organisation and
-the development process is open, transparent and non-Discrimatory.
-Until proven otherwise, I believe it make most sense to believe the
-report is correct.</p>
-
-<p><strong>Specification freely available?</strong></p>
-
-<p>The specification for the <a href="http://www.xiph.org/ogg/doc/">Ogg
-container format</a> and both the
-<a href="http://www.xiph.org/vorbis/doc/">Vorbis</a> and
-<a href="http://theora.org/doc/">Theora</a> codeces are available on
-the web.  This are the terms in the Vorbis and Theora specification:
-
-<blockquote>
-
-Anyone may freely use and distribute the Ogg and [Vorbis/Theora]
-specifications, whether in private, public, or corporate
-capacity. However, the Xiph.Org Foundation and the Ogg project reserve
-the right to set the Ogg [Vorbis/Theora] specification and certify
-specification compliance.
-
-</blockquote>
-
-<p>The Ogg container format is specified in IETF
-<a href="http://www.xiph.org/ogg/doc/rfc3533.txt">RFC 3533</a>, and
-this is the term:<p>
-
-<blockquote>
-
-<p>This document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to
-others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it
-or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published and
-distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any kind,
-provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph are
-included on all such copies and derivative works.  However, this
-document itself may not be modified in any way, such as by removing
-the copyright notice or references to the Internet Society or other
-Internet organizations, except as needed for the purpose of developing
-Internet standards in which case the procedures for copyrights defined
-in the Internet Standards process must be followed, or as required to
-translate it into languages other than English.</p>
-
-<p>The limited permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be
-revoked by the Internet Society or its successors or assigns.</p>
-</blockquote>
-
-<p>All these terms seem to allow unlimited distribution and use, an
-this term seem to be fulfilled.  There might be a problem with the
-missing permission to distribute modified versions of the text, and
-thus reuse it in other specifications.  Not quite sure if that is a
-requirement for the Digistan definition.</p>
-
-<p><strong>Royalty-free?</strong></p>
-
-<p>There are no known patent claims requiring royalties for the Ogg
-Theora format.
-<a href="http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=65782">MPEG-LA</a>
-and
-<a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/04/30/237238/Steve-Jobs-Hints-At-Theora-Lawsuit">Steve
-Jobs</a> in Apple claim to know about some patent claims (submarine
-patents) against the Theora format, but no-one else seem to believe
-them.  Both Opera Software and the Mozilla Foundation have looked into
-this and decided to implement Ogg Theora support in their browsers
-without paying any royalties.  For now the claims from MPEG-LA and
-Steve Jobs seem more like FUD to scare people to use the H.264 codec
-than any real problem with Ogg Theora.</p>
-
-<p><strong>No constraints on re-use?</strong></p>
-
-<p>I am not aware of any constraints on re-use.</p>
-
-<p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
-
-<p>3 of 5 requirements seem obviously fulfilled, and the remaining 2
-depend on the governing structure of the Xiph foundation.  Given the
-background report used by the Norwegian government, I believe it is
-safe to assume the last two requirements are fulfilled too, but it
-would be nice if the Xiph foundation web site made it easier to verify
-this.</p>
-
-<p>It would be nice to see other analysis of other specifications to
-see if they are free and open standards.</p>
+<p>Arbeidet med å få på plass NUUGs
+<a href="http://www.fiksgatami.no/">Fiksgatami-tjeneste</a> går videre
+uten stans.  Den vil som tidligere nevnt bruke de beste
+kommunegrensene vi har klart å få tak i, fra OpenStreetmap.org.  Ofte
+vil unøyaktighetene ikke har mye konsekvenser, da kommunegrenser ofte
+går lagt fra der det bor mye folk, men av og til vil det påvirke
+flere.  Kom over et eksempel i dag, der grensestreken går midt i
+tettbygd strøk og henvendelser via FiksGataMi nok vil bli feilsendt
+pga. at det offentlige nekter å fortelle oss på maskinlesbart format
+hvor kommunegrensa går.</p>
+
+<p>Grensa mellom Tønsberg og Nøtterøy er
+<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?zoom=14&lat=59.25634&lon=10.41679&layers=B00000">i
+dag tegnet opp</a> slik at den går midt igjennom Ollebukta marina og
+lar Ørsnes ligge i en kommune mens Ørsnesalleen går over to kommuner.
+Min erfaring med kommuneoppdeling får meg til å tro at dette neppe
+stemmer.</p
+
+<p>Vi får bare håpe at noen med lokalkunnskap går inn og korrigerer
+grensestreken i OpenStreetmap.org slik at den blir mer nøyaktig, eller
+at det offentlige snur og publiserer i hvert fall
+kommunegrenseinformasjonen på maskinlesbart format uten
+bruksbegresninger, slik at FiksGataMi har større sjanse til å sende
+informasjon til riktig kommune.<p>
+
+<p>Det går mot at det settes hardt mot hardt og en rettsak om temaet,
+og
+<a href="http://lists.nuug.no/pipermail/kart/2011-February/002310.html">i
+går ble det kjent</a> at <a href="http://www.nuug-foundation.no/">NUUG
+Foundation</a> støtter <a href="http://www.frigeonorge.net/">Fri Geo
+Norge</a>-prosjektet med deler av kostnadene forbundet med en rettsak
+for å få tilgang til kommunegrensene fra kartverket.  Jeg gleder meg til
+fortsettelsen.</p>

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+   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>. 

   
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-  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_reply_from_Edgar_Villanueva_to_Microsoft_in_Peru.html">The reply from Edgar Villanueva to Microsoft in Peru</a></div>
-  <div class="date">2010-12-25 10:50</div>
+  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Rub__n_Romero_y_Cordero.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Rubén Romero y Cordero</a></div>
+  <div class="date">2011-02-16 12:00</div>

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   <div class="body">

-<p>A few days ago
-<a href="http://www.idg.no/computerworld/article189879.ece">an
-article</a> in the Norwegian Computerworld magazine about how version
-2.0 of
-<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Interoperability_Framework">European
-Interoperability Framework</a> has been successfully lobbied by the
-proprietary software industry to remove the focus on free software.
-Nothing very surprising there, given
-<a href="http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/29/2115235/Open-Source-Open-Standards-Under-Attack-In-Europe">earlier
-reports</a> on how Microsoft and others have stacked the committees in
-this work.  But I find this very sad.   The definition of
-<a href="http://www.nuug.no/dokumenter/standard-presse-def-200506.txt">an
-open standard from version 1</a> was very good, and something I
-believe should be used also in the future, alongside
-<a href="http://www.digistan.org/open-standard:definition">the
-definition from Digistan</A>.  Version 2 have removed the open
-standard definition from its content.</p>
-
-<p>Anyway, the news reminded me of the great reply sent by Dr. Edgar
-Villanueva, congressman in Peru at the time, to Microsoft as a reply
-to Microsofts attack on his proposal regarding the use of free software
-in the public sector in Peru.  As the text was not available from a
-few of the URLs where it used to be available, I copy it here from
-<a href="http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/articles/en/reponseperou/villanueva_to_ms.html">my
-source</a> to ensure it is available also in the future.  Some
-background information about that story is available in
-<a href="http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6099">an article</a> from
-Linux Journal in 2002.</p>
-
-<blockquote>
-<p>Lima, 8th of April, 2002<br> 
-To: Señor JUAN ALBERTO GONZÁLEZ<br>
-General Manager of Microsoft Perú</p> 
-
-<p>Dear Sir:</p> 
-
-<p>First of all, I thank you for your letter of March 25, 2002 in which you state the official position of Microsoft relative to Bill Number 1609, Free Software in Public Administration, which is indubitably inspired by the desire for Peru to find a suitable place in the global technological context. In the same spirit, and convinced that we will find the best solutions through an exchange of clear and open ideas, I will take this opportunity to reply to the commentaries included in your letter.</p> 
-
-<p>While acknowledging that opinions such as yours constitute a significant contribution, it would have been even more worthwhile for me if, rather than formulating objections of a general nature (which we will analyze in detail later) you had gathered solid arguments for the advantages that proprietary software could bring to the Peruvian State, and to its citizens in general, since this would have allowed a more enlightening exchange in respect of each of our positions.</p> 
-
-<p>With the aim of creating an orderly debate, we will assume that what you call "open source software" is what the Bill defines as "free software", since there exists software for which the source code is distributed together with the program, but which does not fall within the definition established by the Bill; and that what you call "commercial software" is what the Bill defines as "proprietary" or "unfree", given that there exists free software which is sold in the market for a price like any other good or service.</p> 
-
-<p>It is also necessary to make it clear that the aim of the Bill we are discussing is not directly related to the amount of direct savings that can by made by using free software in state institutions. That is in any case a marginal aggregate value, but in no way is it the chief focus of the Bill. The basic principles which inspire the Bill are linked to the basic guarantees of a state of law, such as:</p> 
-
-<p>
+<p>Styret i foreningen som organiserer skolelinux-utviklersamlinger,
+<a href="http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">FRISK</a>, er fullt av
+flinke folk.  Denne gangen har jeg fått et ferskt styremedlem som
+kommer fra Ubuntu-miljøet i tale.</p>
+
+<p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?</strong></p>
+
+<p>Rubén Romero y Cordero, 81-modell, deltidspappa (50%) for en jente
+på 6 år. Jobber i Oslo som Global Sales Executive hos Varnish Software
+og til daglig har jeg kontakt med kunder fra hele verden. Min
+forkjærlighet for fri programvare har gjort at jeg har nå flere års
+erfaring med salg av slike løsninger (bl.a. fra Redpill Linpro og
+Freecode) og mye innsikt og kunnskap om det globale IT-markedet.
+Ellers er jeg involvert i flere prosjekter bl.a. er jeg Ubuntu
+Community medlem, kontaktpersonen for Ubuntu Norge og driveren av
+SpreadUbuntu marketing prosjektet og nå fersk styremedlem i FRISK. Jeg
+har brukt GNU/Linux siden 1997.</p>
+
+<p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?</strong></p>
+
+<p>Som Debian bruker siden slutten av 90-tallet var det uunngåelig å
+ikke komme bort i Skolelinux. Dette var vel i slutten av 2001 når jeg
+var student ved UiO. Flere år senere fikk jeg lastet og testet Venus
+(Skolelinux 1.0) på release dagen.</p>
+
+<p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?</strong></p>
+
+<p>Fri programvare bygges sten for sten i det åpne, slik at koden og
+prosessen den lages på kan gjennomskues av andre enn de som har laget
+det. Det er et vitenskapelig og gjennomsiktig måte å lage programvare
+på.</p>
+
+<p>Skoler i vårt samfunn skal være steder hvor vitenskapelig kunnskap
+deles til alle.  I dag har vi ikke et vitenskapelig tilnærming til
+hvordan programvaren som brukes på skolen lages. Skolelinux bringer
+inn at slik tilnærming i skoleverkets klasserom, siden
+operativsystemet er en åpent platform som gir skolene muligheten til å
+dra nytte av programvare som er laget av tusenvis av mennesker verden
+rundt og som gir elevene så vel som lærerne muligheten til å bruke,
+dele, forandre og forbedre OSet sitt uten begrensninger. I den
+forbindelsen representerer Skolelinux også konkrete resultater utfra
+samhandling på tvers av grenser.</p>
+
+<p>Når det gjelder de tekniske fordelene av Skolelinux er jeg sikker
+på at andre enn meg har allerede beskrevet disse bedre enn det jeg
+kan.  Men jeg kan likevel tilføye noe: Skolelinux som sådan er en
+community-drevet operativsystemplatform. Som i ethvert
+community-prosjekt har alle Skolelinux brukere muligheten til å
+påvirke retning av prosjektet og resultatet som gjenspeiles i
+programvaren. Dette kommer sjeldent frem og jeg mener at det er noe
+som burde fokuseres mer på.</p>
+
+<p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?</strong></p>
+
+<p>De største ulempene er:</p>
+

 <ul>
 <ul>

-<li>Free access to public information by the citizen. </li>
-<li>Permanence of public data. </li>
-<li>Security of the State and citizens.</li> 
+<li>Mangel på kompetanse</li>
+<li>Mangel av administrative verktøy som kunne hjelpe lokale IT
+  avdelinger å bruke Skolelinux til mer enn bare en tjener for
+  terminalklienter. Et eksempel: Zentyal sin web-dashboard.</li>

 </ul>
 </ul>

-</p>
-
-<p>To guarantee the free access of citizens to public information, it is indispensable that the encoding of data is not tied to a single provider. The use of standard and open formats gives a guarantee of this free access, if necessary through the creation of compatible free software.</p> 
-
-<p>To guarantee the permanence of public data, it is necessary that the usability and maintenance of the software does not depend on the goodwill of the suppliers, or on the monopoly conditions imposed by them. For this reason the State needs systems the development of which can be guaranteed due to the availability of the source code.</p> 
-
-<p>To guarantee national security or the security of the State, it is indispensable to be able to rely on systems without elements which allow control from a distance or the undesired transmission of information to third parties. Systems with source code freely accessible to the public are required to allow their inspection by the State itself, by the citizens, and by a large number of independent experts throughout the world. Our proposal brings further security, since the knowledge of the source code will eliminate the growing number of programs with *spy code*. </p>
-
-<p>In the same way, our proposal strengthens the security of the citizens, both in their role as legitimate owners of information managed by the state, and in their role as consumers. In this second case, by allowing the growth of a widespread availability of free software not containing *spy code* able to put at risk privacy and individual freedoms.</p>
-
-<p>In this sense, the Bill is limited to establishing the conditions under which the state bodies will obtain software in the future, that is, in a way compatible with these basic principles.</p> 
-
-
-<p>From reading the Bill it will be clear that once passed:<br> 
-<li>the law does not forbid the production of proprietary software</li> 
-<li>the law does not forbid the sale of proprietary software</li> 
-<li>the law does not specify which concrete software to use</li> 
-<li>the law does not dictate the supplier from whom software will be bought</li> 
-<li>the law does not limit the terms under which a software product can be licensed.</li> 
-
-</p>
-
-<p>What the Bill does express clearly, is that, for software to be acceptable for the state it is not enough that it is technically capable of fulfilling a task, but that further the contractual conditions must satisfy a series of requirements regarding the license, without which the State cannot guarantee the citizen adequate processing of his data, watching over its integrity, confidentiality, and accessibility throughout time, as these are very critical aspects for its normal functioning.</p>
-
-<p>We agree, Mr. Gonzalez, that information and communication technology have a significant impact on the quality of life of the citizens (whether it be positive or negative). We surely also agree that the basic values I have pointed out above are fundamental in a democratic state like Peru. So we are very interested to know of any other way of guaranteeing these principles, other than through the use of free software in the terms defined by the Bill.</p> 
-
-<p>As for the observations you have made, we will now go on to analyze them in detail:</p> 
-
-<p>Firstly, you point out that: "1. The bill makes it compulsory for all public bodies to use only free software, that is to say open source software, which breaches the principles of equality before the law, that of non-discrimination and the right of free private enterprise, freedom of industry and of contract, protected by the constitution."</p> 
-
-<p>This understanding is in error. The Bill in no way affects the rights you list; it limits itself entirely to establishing conditions for the use of software on the part of state institutions, without in any way meddling in private sector transactions. It is a well established principle that the State does not enjoy the wide spectrum of contractual freedom of the private sector, as it is limited in its actions precisely by the requirement for transparency of public acts; and in this sense, the preservation of the greater common interest must prevail when legislating on the matter.</p> 
-
-<p>The Bill protects equality under the law, since no natural or legal person is excluded from the right of offering these goods to the State under the conditions defined in the Bill and without more limitations than those established by the Law of State Contracts and Purchasing (T.U.O. by Supreme Decree No. 012-2001-PCM).</p> 
-
-<p>The Bill does not introduce any discrimination whatever, since it only establishes *how* the goods have to be provided (which is a state power) and not *who* has to provide them (which would effectively be discriminatory, if restrictions based on national origin, race religion, ideology, sexual preference etc. were imposed). On the contrary, the Bill is decidedly antidiscriminatory. This is so because by defining with no room for doubt the conditions for the provision of software, it prevents state bodies from using software which has a license including discriminatory conditions.</p> 
-
-<p>It should be obvious from the preceding two paragraphs that the Bill does not harm free private enterprise, since the latter can always choose under what conditions it will produce software; some of these will be acceptable to the State, and others will not be since they contradict the guarantee of the basic principles listed above. This free initiative is of course compatible with the freedom of industry and freedom of contract (in the limited form in which the State can exercise the latter). Any private subject can produce software under the conditions which the State requires, or can refrain from doing so. Nobody is forced to adopt a model of production, but if they wish to provide software to the State, they must provide the mechanisms which guarantee the basic principles, and which are those described in the Bill.</p> 
-
-<p>By way of an example: nothing in the text of the Bill would prevent your company offering the State bodies an office "suite", under the conditions defined in the Bill and setting the price that you consider satisfactory. If you did not, it would not be due to restrictions imposed by the law, but to business decisions relative to the method of commercializing your products, decisions with which the State is not involved.</p> 
-
-<p>To continue; you note that:" 2. The bill, by making the use of open source software compulsory, would establish discriminatory and non competitive practices in the contracting and purchasing by public bodies..."</p> 
-
-<p>This statement is just a reiteration of the previous one, and so the response can be found above. However, let us concern ourselves for a moment with your comment regarding "non-competitive ... practices."</p> 
-
-<p>Of course, in defining any kind of purchase, the buyer sets conditions which relate to the proposed use of the good or service. From the start, this excludes certain manufacturers from the possibility of competing, but does not exclude them "a priori", but rather based on a series of principles determined by the autonomous will of the purchaser, and so the process takes place in conformance with the law. And in the Bill it is established that *no one* is excluded from competing as far as he guarantees the fulfillment of the basic principles.</p> 
-
-<p>Furthermore, the Bill *stimulates* competition, since it tends to generate a supply of software with better conditions of usability, and to better existing work, in a model of continuous improvement.</p> 
-
-<p>On the other hand, the central aspect of competivity is the chance to provide better choices to the consumer. Now, it is impossible to ignore the fact that marketing does not play a neutral role when the product is offered on the market (since accepting the opposite would lead one to suppose that firms' expenses in marketing lack any sense), and that therefore a significant expense under this heading can influence the decisions of the purchaser. This influence of marketing is in large measure reduced by the bill that we are backing, since the choice within the framework proposed is based on the *technical merits* of the product and not on the effort put into commercialization by the producer; in this sense, competitiveness is increased, since the smallest software producer can compete on equal terms with the most powerful corporations.</p> 
-
-<p>It is necessary to stress that there is no position more anti-competitive than that of the big software producers, which frequently abuse their dominant position, since in innumerable cases they propose as a solution to problems raised by users: "update your software to the new version" (at the user's expense, naturally); furthermore, it is common to find arbitrary cessation of technical help for products, which, in the provider's judgment alone, are "old"; and so, to receive any kind of technical assistance, the user finds himself forced to migrate to new versions (with non-trivial costs, especially as changes in hardware platform are often involved). And as the whole infrastructure is based on proprietary data formats, the user stays "trapped" in the need to continue using products from the same supplier, or to make the huge effort to change to another environment (probably also proprietary).</p> 
-
-<p>You add: "3. So, by compelling the State to favor a business model based entirely on open source, the bill would only discourage the local and international manufacturing companies, which are the ones which really undertake important expenditures, create a significant number of direct and indirect jobs, as well as contributing to the GNP, as opposed to a model of open source software which tends to have an ever weaker economic impact, since it mainly creates jobs in the service sector."</p> 
-
-<p>I do not agree with your statement. Partly because of what you yourself point out in paragraph 6 of your letter, regarding the relative weight of services in the context of software use. This contradiction alone would invalidate your position. The service model, adopted by a large number of companies in the software industry, is much larger in economic terms, and with a tendency to increase, than the licensing of programs.</p> 
-
-<p>On the other hand, the private sector of the economy has the widest possible freedom to choose the economic model which best suits its interests, even if this freedom of choice is often obscured subliminally by the disproportionate expenditure on marketing by the producers of proprietary software.</p> 
-
-<p>In addition, a reading of your opinion would lead to the conclusion that the State market is crucial and essential for the proprietary software industry, to such a point that the choice made by the State in this bill would completely eliminate the market for these firms. If that is true, we can deduce that the State must be subsidizing the proprietary software industry. In the unlikely event that this were true, the State would have the right to apply the subsidies in the area it considered of greatest social value; it is undeniable, in this improbable hypothesis, that if the State decided to subsidize software, it would have to do so choosing the free over the proprietary, considering its social effect and the rational use of taxpayers money.</p> 
-
-<p>In respect of the jobs generated by proprietary software in countries like ours, these mainly concern technical tasks of little aggregate value; at the local level, the technicians who provide support for proprietary software produced by transnational companies do not have the possibility of fixing bugs, not necessarily for lack of technical capability or of talent, but because they do not have access to the source code to fix it. With free software one creates more technically qualified employment and a framework of free competence where success is only tied to the ability to offer good technical support and quality of service, one stimulates the market, and one increases the shared fund of knowledge, opening up alternatives to generate services of greater total value and a higher quality level, to the benefit of all involved: producers, service organizations, and consumers.</p> 
-
-<p>It is a common phenomenon in developing countries that local software industries obtain the majority of their takings in the service sector, or in the creation of "ad hoc" software. Therefore, any negative impact that the application of the Bill might have in this sector will be more than compensated by a growth in demand for services (as long as these are carried out to high quality standards). If the transnational software companies decide not to compete under these new rules of the game, it is likely that they will undergo some decrease in takings in terms of payment for licenses; however, considering that these firms continue to allege that much of the software used by the State has been illegally copied, one can see that the impact will not be very serious. Certainly, in any case their fortune will be determined by market laws, changes in which cannot be avoided; many firms traditionally associated with proprietary software have already set out on the road (supported by copious expense) of providing services associated with free software, which shows that the models are not mutually exclusive.</p> 
-
-<p>With this bill the State is deciding that it needs to preserve certain fundamental values. And it is deciding this based on its sovereign power, without affecting any of the constitutional guarantees. If these values could be guaranteed without having to choose a particular economic model, the effects of the law would be even more beneficial. In any case, it should be clear that the State does not choose an economic model; if it happens that there only exists one economic model capable of providing software which provides the basic guarantee of these principles, this is because of historical circumstances, not because of an arbitrary choice of a given model.</p> 

 
 

-<p>Your letter continues: "4. The bill imposes the use of open source software without considering the dangers that this can bring from the point of view of security, guarantee, and possible violation of the intellectual property rights of third parties."</p> 
+<p>Bedre og mer intuitive administrative verktøy kunne løst deler av
+problemet, men det er unektelig at ved bruk av Skolelinux må
+IT-personalet vite hva de gjør for å få ting gjort riktig, eller i det
+hele tatt. Med andre platformer er kompetansen enklere tilgjengelig og
+løsningene kan fungere på en tilfredstillende, om ikke riktig
+måte.</p>

 
 

-<p>Alluding in an abstract way to "the dangers this can bring", without specifically mentioning a single one of these supposed dangers, shows at the least some lack of knowledge of the topic. So, allow me to enlighten you on these points.</p> 
+<p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?</strong></p>

 
 

-<p>On security:</p> 
+<p>Har brukt GNU/Linux utelukkende sommitt skrivebord OS siden 2000. I
+dag bruker jeg Ubuntu og gjør det meste med friprogramvare verktøyene
+som er tilgjengelige der. Med over 20.000 programmer å velge mellom er
+dette mer enn nok for de fleste brukerne.</p>

 
 

-<p>National security has already been mentioned in general terms in the initial discussion of the basic principles of the bill. In more specific terms, relative to the security of the software itself, it is well known that all software (whether proprietary or free) contains errors or "bugs" (in programmers' slang). But it is also well known that the bugs in free software are fewer, and are fixed much more quickly, than in proprietary software. It is not in vain that numerous public bodies responsible for the IT security of state systems in developed countries require the use of free software for the same conditions of security and efficiency.</p> 
+<p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
+skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?</strong></p>

 
 

-<p>What is impossible to prove is that proprietary software is more secure than free, without the public and open inspection of the scientific community and users in general. This demonstration is impossible because the model of proprietary software itself prevents this analysis, so that any guarantee of security is based only on promises of good intentions (biased, by any reckoning) made by the producer itself, or its contractors.</p> 
-
-<p>It should be remembered that in many cases, the licensing conditions include Non-Disclosure clauses which prevent the user from publicly revealing security flaws found in the licensed proprietary product.</p> 
-
-<p>In respect of the guarantee:</p> 
-
-A<p>s you know perfectly well, or could find out by reading the "End User License Agreement" of the products you license, in the great majority of cases the guarantees are limited to replacement of the storage medium in case of defects, but in no case is compensation given for direct or indirect damages, loss of profits, etc... If as a result of a security bug in one of your products, not fixed in time by yourselves, an attacker managed to compromise crucial State systems, what guarantees, reparations and compensation would your company make in accordance with your licensing conditions? The guarantees of proprietary software, inasmuch as programs are delivered ``AS IS'', that is, in the state in which they are, with no additional responsibility of the provider in respect of function, in no way differ from those normal with free software.</p> 
-
-<p>On Intellectual Property:</p> 
-
-<p>Questions of intellectual property fall outside the scope of this bill, since they are covered by specific other laws. The model of free software in no way implies ignorance of these laws, and in fact the great majority of free software is covered by copyright. In reality, the inclusion of this question in your observations shows your confusion in respect of the legal framework in which free software is developed. The inclusion of the intellectual property of others in works claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been noted in the free software community; whereas, unfortunately, it has been in the area of proprietary software. As an example, the condemnation by the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France, on 27th September 2001 of Microsoft Corp. to a penalty of 3 million francs in damages and interest, for violation of intellectual property (piracy, to use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly uses in its publicity).</p> 
-
-<p>You go on to say that: "The bill uses the concept of open source software incorrectly, since it does not necessarily imply that the software is free or of zero cost, and so arrives at mistaken conclusions regarding State savings, with no cost-benefit analysis to validate its position."</p> 
-
-<p>This observation is wrong; in principle, freedom and lack of cost are orthogonal concepts: there is software which is proprietary and charged for (for example, MS Office), software which is proprietary and free of charge (MS Internet Explorer), software which is free and charged for (Red Hat, SuSE etc GNU/Linux distributions), software which is free and not charged for (Apache, Open Office, Mozilla), and even software which can be licensed in a range of combinations (MySQL).</p> 
-
-<p>Certainly free software is not necessarily free of charge. And the text of the bill does not state that it has to be so, as you will have noted after reading it. The definitions included in the Bill state clearly *what* should be considered free software, at no point referring to freedom from charges. Although the possibility of savings in payments for proprietary software licenses are mentioned, the foundations of the bill clearly refer to the fundamental guarantees to be preserved and to the stimulus to local technological development. Given that a democratic State must support these principles, it has no other choice than to use software with publicly available source code, and to exchange information only in standard formats.</p> 
-
-<p>If the State does not use software with these characteristics, it will be weakening basic republican principles. Luckily, free software also implies lower total costs; however, even given the hypothesis (easily disproved) that it was more expensive than proprietary software, the simple existence of an effective free software tool for a particular IT function would oblige the State to use it; not by command of this Bill, but because of the basic principles we enumerated at the start, and which arise from the very essence of the lawful democratic State.</p> 
-
-<p>You continue: "6. It is wrong to think that Open Source Software is free of charge. Research by the Gartner Group (an important investigator of the technological market recognized at world level) has shown that the cost of purchase of software (operating system and applications) is only 8% of the total cost which firms and institutions take on for a rational and truly beneficial use of the technology. The other 92% consists of: installation costs, enabling, support, maintenance, administration, and down-time."</p> 
-
-<p>This argument repeats that already given in paragraph 5 and partly contradicts paragraph 3. For the sake of brevity we refer to the comments on those paragraphs. However, allow me to point out that your conclusion is logically false: even if according to Gartner Group the cost of software is on average only 8% of the total cost of use, this does not in any way deny the existence of software which is free of charge, that is, with a licensing cost of zero.</p> 
-
-<p>In addition, in this paragraph you correctly point out that the service components and losses due to down-time make up the largest part of the total cost of software use, which, as you will note, contradicts your statement regarding the small value of services suggested in paragraph 3. Now the use of free software contributes significantly to reduce the remaining life-cycle costs. This reduction in the costs of installation, support etc. can be noted in several areas: in the first place, the competitive service model of free software, support and maintenance for which can be freely contracted out to a range of suppliers competing on the grounds of quality and low cost. This is true for installation, enabling, and support, and in large part for maintenance. In the second place, due to the reproductive characteristics of the model, maintenance carried out for an application is easily replicable, without incurring large costs (that is, without paying more than once for the same thing) since modifications, if one wishes, can be incorporated in the common fund of knowledge. Thirdly, the huge costs caused by non-functioning software ("blue screens of death", malicious code such as virus, worms, and trojans, exceptions, general protection faults and other well-known problems) are reduced considerably by using more stable software; and it is well known that one of the most notable virtues of free software is its stability.</p> 
-
-<p>You further state that: "7. One of the arguments behind the bill is the supposed freedom from costs of open-source software, compared with the costs of commercial software, without taking into account the fact that there exist types of volume licensing which can be highly advantageous for the State, as has happened in other countries."</p> 
-
-<p>I have already pointed out that what is in question is not the cost of the software but the principles of freedom of information, accessibility, and security. These arguments have been covered extensively in the preceding paragraphs to which I would refer you.</p> 
-
-<p>On the other hand, there certainly exist types of volume licensing (although unfortunately proprietary software does not satisfy the basic principles). But as you correctly pointed out in the immediately preceding paragraph of your letter, they only manage to reduce the impact of a component which makes up no more than 8% of the total.</p> 
-
-<p>You continue: "8. In addition, the alternative adopted by the bill (I) is clearly more expensive, due to the high costs of software migration, and (II) puts at risk compatibility and interoperability of the IT platforms within the State, and between the State and the private sector, given the hundreds of versions of open source software on the market."</p> 
-
-<p>Let us analyze your statement in two parts. Your first argument, that migration implies high costs, is in reality an argument in favor of the Bill. Because the more time goes by, the more difficult migration to another technology will become; and at the same time, the security risks associated with proprietary software will continue to increase. In this way, the use of proprietary systems and formats will make the State ever more dependent on specific suppliers. Once a policy of using free software has been established (which certainly, does imply some cost) then on the contrary migration from one system to another becomes very simple, since all data is stored in open formats. On the other hand, migration to an open software context implies no more costs than migration between two different proprietary software contexts, which invalidates your argument completely.</p> 
-
-<p>The second argument refers to "problems in interoperability of the IT platforms within the State, and between the State and the private sector" This statement implies a certain lack of knowledge of the way in which free software is built, which does not maximize the dependence of the user on a particular platform, as normally happens in the realm of proprietary software. Even when there are multiple free software distributions, and numerous programs which can be used for the same function, interoperability is guaranteed as much by the use of standard formats, as required by the bill, as by the possibility of creating interoperable software given the availability of the source code.</p> 
-
-<p>You then say that: "9. The majority of open source code does not offer adequate levels of service nor the guarantee from recognized manufacturers of high productivity on the part of the users, which has led various public organizations to retract their decision to go with an open source software solution and to use commercial software in its place."</p> 
-
-<p>This observation is without foundation. In respect of the guarantee, your argument was rebutted in the response to paragraph 4. In respect of support services, it is possible to use free software without them (just as also happens with proprietary software), but anyone who does need them can obtain support separately, whether from local firms or from international corporations, again just as in the case of proprietary software.</p> 
-
-<p>On the other hand, it would contribute greatly to our analysis if you could inform us about free software projects *established* in public bodies which have already been abandoned in favor of proprietary software. We know of a good number of cases where the opposite has taken place, but not know of any where what you describe has taken place.</p> 
-
-<p>You continue by observing that: "10. The bill discourages the creativity of the Peruvian software industry, which invoices 40 million US$/year, exports 4 million US$ (10th in ranking among non-traditional exports, more than handicrafts) and is a source of highly qualified employment. With a law that encourages the use of open source, software programmers lose their intellectual property rights and their main source of payment."</p> 
-
-<p>It is clear enough that nobody is forced to commercialize their code as free software. The only thing to take into account is that if it is not free software, it cannot be sold to the public sector. This is not in any case the main market for the national software industry. We covered some questions referring to the influence of the Bill on the generation of employment which would be both highly technically qualified and in better conditions for competition above, so it seems unnecessary to insist on this point.</p> 
-
-<p>What follows in your statement is incorrect. On the one hand, no author of free software loses his intellectual property rights, unless he expressly wishes to place his work in the public domain. The free software movement has always been very respectful of intellectual property, and has generated widespread public recognition of its authors. Names like those of Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds, Guido van Rossum, Larry Wall, Miguel de Icaza, Andrew Tridgell, Theo de Raadt, Andrea Arcangeli, Bruce Perens, Darren Reed, Alan Cox, Eric Raymond, and many others, are recognized world-wide for their contributions to the development of software that is used today by millions of people throughout the world. On the other hand, to say that the rewards for authors rights make up the main source of payment of Peruvian programmers is in any case a guess, in particular since there is no proof to this effect, nor a demonstration of how the use of free software by the State would influence these payments.</p> 
-
-<p>You go on to say that: "11. Open source software, since it can be distributed without charge, does not allow the generation of income for its developers through exports. In this way, the multiplier effect of the sale of software to other countries is weakened, and so in turn is the growth of the industry, while Government rules ought on the contrary to stimulate local industry."</p> 
-
-<p>This statement shows once again complete ignorance of the mechanisms of and market for free software. It tries to claim that the market of sale of non- exclusive rights for use (sale of licenses) is the only possible one for the software industry, when you yourself pointed out several paragraphs above that it is not even the most important one. The incentives that the bill offers for the growth of a supply of better qualified professionals, together with the increase in experience that working on a large scale with free software within the State will bring for Peruvian technicians, will place them in a highly competitive position to offer their services abroad.</p> 
-
-<p>You then state that: "12. In the Forum, the use of open source software in education was discussed, without mentioning the complete collapse of this initiative in a country like Mexico, where precisely the State employees who founded the project now state that open source software did not make it possible to offer a learning experience to pupils in the schools, did not take into account the capability at a national level to give adequate support to the platform, and that the software did not and does not allow for the levels of platform integration that now exist in schools."</p> 
-
-<p>In fact Mexico has gone into reverse with the Red Escolar (Schools Network) project. This is due precisely to the fact that the driving forces behind the Mexican project used license costs as their main argument, instead of the other reasons specified in our project, which are far more essential. Because of this conceptual mistake, and as a result of the lack of effective support from the SEP (Secretary of State for Public Education), the assumption was made that to implant free software in schools it would be enough to drop their software budget and send them a CD ROM with Gnu/Linux instead. Of course this failed, and it couldn't have been otherwise, just as school laboratories fail when they use proprietary software and have no budget for implementation and maintenance. That's exactly why our bill is not limited to making the use of free software mandatory, but recognizes the need to create a viable migration plan, in which the State undertakes the technical transition in an orderly way in order to then enjoy the advantages of free software.</p> 
-
-<p>You end with a rhetorical question: "13. If open source software satisfies all the requirements of State bodies, why do you need a law to adopt it? Shouldn't it be the market which decides freely which products give most benefits or value?"</p> 
-
-<p>We agree that in the private sector of the economy, it must be the market that decides which products to use, and no state interference is permissible there. However, in the case of the public sector, the reasoning is not the same: as we have already established, the state archives, handles, and transmits information which does not belong to it, but which is entrusted to it by citizens, who have no alternative under the rule of law. As a counterpart to this legal requirement, the State must take extreme measures to safeguard the integrity, confidentiality, and accessibility of this information. The use of proprietary software raises serious doubts as to whether these requirements can be fulfilled, lacks conclusive evidence in this respect, and so is not suitable for use in the public sector.</p> 
-
-<p>The need for a law is based, firstly, on the realization of the fundamental principles listed above in the specific area of software; secondly, on the fact that the State is not an ideal homogeneous entity, but made up of multiple bodies with varying degrees of autonomy in decision making. Given that it is inappropriate to use proprietary software, the fact of establishing these rules in law will prevent the personal discretion of any state employee from putting at risk the information which belongs to citizens. And above all, because it constitutes an up-to-date reaffirmation in relation to the means of management and communication of information used today, it is based on the republican principle of openness to the public.</p> 
-
-<p>In conformance with this universally accepted principle, the citizen has the right to know all information held by the State and not covered by well- founded declarations of secrecy based on law. Now, software deals with information and is itself information. Information in a special form, capable of being interpreted by a machine in order to execute actions, but crucial information all the same because the citizen has a legitimate right to know, for example, how his vote is computed or his taxes calculated. And for that he must have free access to the source code and be able to prove to his satisfaction the programs used for electoral computations or calculation of his taxes.</p> 
-
-<p>I wish you the greatest respect, and would like to repeat that my office will always be open for you to expound your point of view to whatever level of detail you consider suitable.</p> 
-
-<p>Cordially,<br> 
-DR. EDGAR DAVID VILLANUEVA NUÑEZ<br> 
-Congressman of the Republic of Perú.</p> 
-</blockquote>
+<p>Opplysning og pragmatikk.  Vi prøver å løse problemer med bruk av
+programvare. De fleste utfordringene skolene har på IKT-siden kan
+løses ved hjelp av friprogramvareverktøy i dag. Det som trenges er
+opplysning, kunnskap og kompetanse.</p>

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-  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Officeshots_still_going_strong.html">Officeshots still going strong</a></div>
-  <div class="date">2010-12-25 09:40</div>
+  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fiksgatami_tar_form___snart_klar_for_test.html">Fiksgatami tar form - snart klar for test</a></div>
+  <div class="date">2011-02-13 21:10</div>

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-<p>Half a year ago I
-<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Officeshots_taking_shape.html">wrote
-a bit</a> about <a href="http://www.officeshots.org/">OfficeShots</a>,
-a web service to allow anyone to test how ODF documents are handled by
-the different programs reading and writing the ODF format.</p>
-
-<p>I just had a look at the service, and it seem to be going strong.
-Very interesting to see the results reported in the gallery, how
-different Office implementations handle different ODF features.  Sad
-to see that KOffice was not doing it very well, and happy to see that
-LibreOffice has been tested already (but sadly not listed as a option
-for OfficeShots users yet).  I am glad to see that the ODF community
-got such a great test tool available.</p>
+<p>NUUGs <a href="http://www.fiksgatami.no/">Fiksgatami-tjeneste</a>
+tar sakte form, og den siste uka har vi betalt
+<a href="http://www.mysociety.org/">mySociety</a> i England for å
+tilpasse kildekoden til deres tjeneste slik at den skal fungere for
+Norge.  I løpet av kommende uke regner jeg at vi skal i gang med
+testing.</p>
+
+<p>For å forberede testing, har jeg tatt en titt på hva slags
+informasjon som samles inn av kommuner som har lignende tjeneste for
+sin kommune allerede på plass.  Jeg har tittet på tjenestene til
+<a href="http://www.gatami.no/">Tromsø</a>,
+<a href="http://www.porsgrunn.kommune.no/Hovedmeny/Selvbetjening/MinGate/">Porsgrunn</a>
+og <a href="http://fiksgata.kongsvinger.no/">Kongsvinger</a>.  Jeg
+tittet også på
+<a href="http://www.asker.kommune.no/Dialog/Kontakt-oss/AskerDialogen/">Askers</a>,
+som er litt på siden at det jeg skriver om her</p>
+
+<p>Om problemet samles alle tjenestene inn plassering, enten som
+adresse eller som kartkoordinat.  De samler også inn en
+oppsummering/overskrift og en lengre beskrivelse, og noen av dem
+tillater bilde og vedlegg lagt ved.  Alle problemene tildeles en
+kategori, og det er stort overlapp i kategoriseringen:</p>
+
+<table>
+<tr><th>Tromsø</th>        <th>Porsgrunn</th>           <th>Kongsvinger</th></tr>
+<tr><td>Vei</td>           <td>Hull i veg</td>          <td>Veg/Vegvedlikehold</td></tr>
+<tr><td></td>              <td></td>                    <td>Skilt/Trafikksikkerhet</td></tr>
+<tr><td>Gatelys</td>       <td>Gatelys virker ikke</td> <td>Gatelys</td></tr>
+<tr><td>Vann og avløp</td> <td>Vann og avløp</td>       <td>Vann/Avløp</td></tr>
+<tr><td>Park</td>          <td>Park</td>                <td>Park/Grønt</td></tr>
+<tr><td>Friluftsliv</td>   <td>Friluft</td></tr>
+<tr><td>Renovasjon</td>    <td>Renovasjon</td>          <td>Renovasjon/Avfall</td></tr>
+<tr><td>                   <td>Grafitti-Tagging</td>    <td>Grafitti/Tagging</td></tr>
+<tr><td></td>              <td></td>                    <td>Forsøpling</td></tr>
+<tr><td>Annet</td>         <td>Annet</td>               <td>Annet</td></tr>
+</table>
+
+<p>Om de som rapporterer inn problemet, blir det samlet inn navn,
+epostadresse, et eller to telefonnummer og for Asker postadresse.
+Noen vil også vite hvordan tilbakemelding ønskes, dvs. epost, telefon
+eller via post.</p>
+
+<p>Fiksgatami skulle kunne håndtere innsending til disse kommunene
+uten større problemer, tror jeg.  Kategorier defineres per område,
+slik at kommunene kan få meldinger inndelt i de kategoriene de
+trenger.  Fiksgatami samler i utgangspunktet kun inn navn og
+epostadresse for innsender, og det tror jeg vi skal fortsette med.</p>

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+   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>. 

   
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-  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/165_norske_overv__kningskamera_registert_s___langt_i_OpenStreetmap_org.html">165 norske overvåkningskamera registert så langt i OpenStreetmap.org</a></div>
-  <div class="date">2010-12-24 11:20</div>
+  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Bedre_kommunegrense_for_Oslo_i_OpenStreetmap_org.html">Bedre kommunegrense for Oslo i OpenStreetmap.org</a></div>
+  <div class="date">2011-02-07 10:35</div>

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-<p>Jeg flikket litt på OpenStreetmap.org i går, og oppdaget ved en
-tilfeldighet at det er en rekke noder som representerer
-overvåkningskamera som ikke blir med på kartet med overvåkningskamera
-i Norge som
-<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Kart_over_overv__kningskamera_i_Norge.html">jeg
-laget</a> for snart to år siden.  Fra før tok jeg med noder merket med
-man_made=surveillance, mens det er en rekke noder som kun er merket
-med highway=speed_camera.  Endret på koden som henter ut kameralisten
-fra OSM, og vips er antall kamera økt til 165.</p>
-
-<a href="http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/">Kartet</a>
-er fortsatt ikke komplett, så hvis du ser noen kamera som mangler,
-legg inn ved å følge instruksene fra
-<a href="http://personvern.no/wiki/index.php/Kameraovervåkning">prosjektsiden</a>.
-Hvis du vet om noen flere måter å merke overvåkningskamera i OSM, ta
-kontakt slik at jeg kan få med også disse.</p>
+<p>Tidlig i januar oppdaget vi i
+<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.no/">OpenStreetmap.org-prosjektet</a>
+at Oslo kommune har tatt i bruk OpenStreetmap.org for å vise frem
+<a href="http://www.samferdselsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/miljo/piggdekkgebyr/">hvor
+piggdekkavgiften gjelder</a>, dvs. kommunegrensa.  Årsaken til at
+denne siden bruker OpenStreetmap.org og ikke kommunens eget
+kartgrunnlag, er ganske absurd.  Kommunens kart vedlikeholdes og
+styres av Plan og Bygningsetaten, mens det er Samferdselsetaten som
+styrer med piggdekkavgift og som har laget siden om piggdekkavgiften.
+I avtalen mellom Samferdselsetatet og Plan og Bygningsetaten om bruk
+av kommunens kart står det at kartet kun kan brukes internt, og dermed
+ikke publiseres på Internet.  Oslo kommune forbyr altså Oslo kommune å
+publisere informasjon om sin kommunegrense på Internet.  Ironien er
+upåklagelig, og årsaken er som alltid penger.</p>
+
+<p>Vi i OpenStreetmap.org-prosjektet synes det er veldig gledelig at
+Oslo kommune vil bruke kartet vårt, men det var et lite problem rundt
+bruken av kommunegrensen.  Den kommer fra kartverkets N5000-kart, som
+i følge kartverket har nøyaktighet på 2 km.  Et kart over hvor
+piggdekkavgiften gjelder bør ha høyere nøyaktighet enn det for å unngå
+konflikter, så det var dermed viktig for oss å forbedre nøyaktigheten
+for Oslogrensa.</p>
+
+<p>For litt over 2 uker siden ringte jeg derfor til Kartverket, for å
+høre om de kunne bidra.  Jeg lurte på om de enten hadde noen
+datakilder med kommunegrensen i Oslo som vi ikke kjente til, eller om
+de kunne forklare hvordan vi kunne gjenskape kommunegrensen på bakken
+ved å følge en beskrivelse av grensen eller finne grensepunkter
+etc.</p>
+
+<p>For å ta det siste først, så var det beste forslaget der å bruke
+kartet tilgjengelig fra
+<a href="http://www.norgeskart.no/">norgeskart.no</a> til å slå opp
+gårds- og bruksnummer for eiendommer som grenset til kommunegrensa, og
+så be om innsyn i matrikkelen for hver av disse eiendommene og gå opp
+grensen basert på informasjon fra matrikkelen.  Det fantes antagelig
+også noen grensesteiner som var merket på bakken, men de kjente ikke
+til noen offentlig kilde med informasjon om hvor disse steinene sto.
+Dette er en ganske arbeidskrevende oppgave, som får vente til en annen
+gang.<p>
+
+<p>For alternative datakilder vi ikke kjente til, så var det ingen som
+hadde gode forslag når det gjaldt datakilder fra kartverket.  Men en
+nevnte at det kunne være enklere å få ut data fra veidatabasen til
+vegvesenet, f.eks. de punktene der veier inn og ut av Oslo byttet
+kommune.  Dette ble jeg forklart var trivielt å hente ut (mindre enn 1
+minutts jobb), men vedkommende jeg snakket med kunne ikke avgjøre om
+vi kunne få disse punktene uten bruksbegrensninger.</p>
+
+<p>Og tilgang uten bruksbegrensninger er viktig for OpenStreetmap.org,
+da det skal være tillatt å bruke OpenStreetmap.org-data til å lage
+kommersielle tjenester og kopiere, endre og distribuere
+OpenStreetmap.org-data uten begrensninger.  Jeg gjorde det derfor
+klart for de jeg snakket med hos Kartverket at jeg kun var interessert
+i å motta data som kunne legges inn i OpenStreetmap.org uten
+bindinger.  Fikk f.eks. tilbud om å få "test-data" av kommunegrensen
+for Oslo til internt bruk og måtte takke nei.</p>
+
+<p>Ideen om veidatabasen var interessant, og jeg fulgte den opp
+videre.  Ble satt videre til noen som kanskje kunne avgjøre om jeg
+fikk disse punktene uten bruksbegresninger, og etter en kort og
+interessant samtale fikk jeg ja til å få kopi av punktene der
+Oslogrensa krysser vei.  De ble
+<a href="http://lists.nuug.no/pipermail/kart/2011-January/002242.html">sendt
+til kart-listen</a> i SOSI-format, og i løpet av noen dager brukt til
+å justere kommunegrensa for Oslo slik at den nå har nøyaktighet på
+noen meter der den krysser vei.  Har fått tilbakemelding fra noen som
+har tilgang til Oslo kommunes kart at nøyaktigheten var blitt mye
+bedre. :)</p>
+
+<p>Det burde ikke være nødvendig å gjøre en slik innsats for å få vite
+hvor kommunegrensene går.  En skulle jo tro dette var offentlig
+informasjon uten bruksbegrensing, og Gustav Fosseid og Magne Mæhre har
+et prosjekt gående for å be om innsyn i nettopp denne informasjonen.
+De har bedt om elektronisk kopi av kartkoordinatene for
+kommunegrensene i endel kommuner på østlandet i sitt <a
+href="http://www.frigeonorge.net/">Fri Geo Norge-prosjekt</a>, og har
+fått avslag i første instans og klagesvar fra fylkesmannen i sin klage
+på avslaget.  Er spent på fortsettelsen, og gir dem all min hjelp og
+støtte i arbeidet med å få frigjort det som burde vært offentlig
+informasjon.</p>

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+   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett</a>. 

   
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-  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/How_to_test_if_a_laptop_is_working_with_Linux.html">How to test if a laptop is working with Linux</a></div>
-  <div class="date">2010-12-22 14:55</div>
+  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Using_NVD_and_CPE_to_track_CVEs_in_locally_maintained_software.html">Using NVD and CPE to track CVEs in locally maintained software</a></div>
+  <div class="date">2011-01-28 15:40</div>

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-<p>The last few days I have spent at work here at the <a
-href="http://www.uio.no/">University of oslo</a> testing if the new
-batch of computers will work with Linux.  Every year for the last few
-years the university have organized shared bid of a few thousand
-computers, and this year HP won the bid.  Two different desktops and
-five different laptops are on the list this year.  We in the UNIX
-group want to know which one of these computers work well with RHEL
-and Ubuntu, the two Linux distributions we currently handle at the
-university.</p>
-
-<p>My test method is simple, and I share it here to get feedback and
-perhaps inspire others to test hardware as well.  To test, I PXE
-install the OS version of choice, and log in as my normal user and run
-a few applications and plug in selected pieces of hardware.  When
-something fail, I make a note about this in the test matrix and move
-on.  If I have some spare time I try to report the bug to the OS
-vendor, but as I only have the machines for a short time, I rarely
-have the time to do this for all the problems I find.</p>
-
-<p>Anyway, to get to the point of this post.  Here is the simple tests
-I perform on a new model.</p>
-
-<ul>
-
-<li>Is PXE installation working?  I'm testing with RHEL6, Ubuntu Lucid
-and Ubuntu Maverik at the moment.  If I feel like it, I also test with
-RHEL5 and Debian Edu/Squeeze.</li>
-
-<li>Is X.org working?  If the graphical login screen show up after
-installation, X.org is working.</li>
-
-<li>Is hardware accelerated OpenGL working?  Running glxgears (in
-package mesa-utils on Ubuntu) and writing down the frames per second
-reported by the program.</li>
-
-<li>Is sound working?  With Gnome and KDE, a sound is played when
-logging in, and if I can hear this the test is successful.  If there
-are several audio exits on the machine, I try them all and check if
-the Gnome/KDE audio mixer can control where to send the sound.  I
-normally test this by playing
-<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20101012-chef/ ">a HTML5
-video</a> in Firefox/Iceweasel.</li>
-
-<li>Is the USB subsystem working?  I test this by plugging in a USB
-memory stick and see if Gnome/KDE notices this.</li>
-
-<li>Is the CD/DVD player working?  I test this by inserting any CD/DVD
-I have lying around, and see if Gnome/KDE notices this.</li>
-
-<li>Is any built in camera working?  Test using cheese, and see if a
-picture from the v4l device show up.</li>
-
-<li>Is bluetooth working?  Use the Gnome/KDE browsing tool to see if
-any bluetooth devices are discovered.  In my office, I normally see a
-few.</li>
-
-<li>For laptops, is the SD or Compaq Flash reader working.  I have
-memory modules lying around, and stick them in and see if Gnome/KDE
-notice this.</li>
-
-<li>For laptops, is suspecd/hibernate working?  I'm testing if the
-special button work, and if the laptop continue to work after
-resume.</li>
-
-<li>For laptops, is the extra buttons working, like audio level,
-adjusting background light, switching on/off external video output,
-switching on/off wifi, bluetooth, etc?  The set of buttons differ from
-laptop to laptop, so I just write down which are working and which are
-not.</li>
-
-<li>Some laptops have smart card readers, finger print readers,
-acceleration sensors etc.  I rarely test these, as I do not know how
-to quickly test if they are working or not, so I only document their
-existence.</li>
-
-</ul>
-
-<p>By now I suspect you are really curious what the test results are
-for the HP machines I am testing.  I'm not done yet, so I will report
-the test results later.  For now I can report that HP 8100 Elite work
-fine, and hibernation fail with HP EliteBook 8440p on Ubuntu Lucid,
-and audio fail on RHEL6.  Ubuntu Maverik worked with 8440p.  As you
-can see, I have most machines left to test.  One interesting
-observation is that Ubuntu Lucid has almost twice the framerate than
-RHEL6 with glxgears.  No idea why.</p>
-</div>
-  <div class="tags">
-   
-
-   
-   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>. 
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- <div class="entry">
-  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Some_thoughts_on_BitCoins.html">Some thoughts on BitCoins</a></div>
-  <div class="date">2010-12-11 15:10</div>
-  <div class="body">
-<p>As I continue to explore
-<a href="http://www.bitcoin.org/">BitCoin</a>, I've starting to wonder
-what properties the system have, and how it will be affected by laws
-and regulations here in Norway.  Here are some random notes.</p>
-
-<p>One interesting thing to note is that since the transactions are
-verified using a peer to peer network, all details about a transaction
-is known to everyone.  This means that if a BitCoin address has been
-published like I did with mine in my initial post about BitCoin, it is
-possible for everyone to see how many BitCoins have been transfered to
-that address.  There is even a web service to look at the details for
-all transactions.  There I can see that my address
-<a href="http://blockexplorer.com/address/15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b">15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b</a>
-have received 16.06 Bitcoin, the
-<a href="http://blockexplorer.com/address/1LfdGnGuWkpSJgbQySxxCWhv8MHqvwst3">1LfdGnGuWkpSJgbQySxxCWhv8MHqvwst3</a>
-address of Simon Phipps have received 181.97 BitCoin and the address
-<a href="http://blockexplorer.com/address/1MCwBbhNGp5hRm5rC1Aims2YFRe2SXPYKt">1MCwBbhNGp5hRm5rC1Aims2YFRe2SXPYKt</A>
-of EFF have received 2447.38 BitCoins so far.  Thank you to each and
-every one of you that donated bitcoins to support my activity. The
-fact that anyone can see how much money was transfered to a given
-address make it more obvious why the BitCoin community recommend to
-generate and hand out a new address for each transaction.  I'm told
-there is no way to track which addresses belong to a given person or
-organisation without the person or organisation revealing it
-themselves, as Simon, EFF and I have done.</p>
-
-<p>In Norway, and in most other countries, there are laws and
-regulations limiting how much money one can transfer across the border
-without declaring it.  There are money laundering, tax and accounting
-laws and regulations I would expect to apply to the use of BitCoin.
-If the Skolelinux foundation
-(<a href="http://linuxiskolen.no/slxdebianlabs/donations.html">SLX
-Debian Labs</a>) were to accept donations in BitCoin in addition to
-normal bank transfers like EFF is doing, how should this be accounted?
-Given that it is impossible to know if money can across the border or
-not, should everything or nothing be declared?  What exchange rate
-should be used when calculating taxes?  Would receivers have to pay
-income tax if the foundation were to pay Skolelinux contributors in
-BitCoin?  I have no idea, but it would be interesting to know.</p>
-
-<p>For a currency to be useful and successful, it must be trusted and
-accepted by a lot of users.  It must be possible to get easy access to
-the currency (as a wage or using currency exchanges), and it must be
-easy to spend it.  At the moment BitCoin seem fairly easy to get
-access to, but there are very few places to spend it.  I am not really
-a regular user of any of the vendor types currently accepting BitCoin,
-so I wonder when my kind of shop would start accepting BitCoins.  I
-would like to buy electronics, travels and subway tickets, not herbs
-and books. :) The currency is young, and this will improve over time
-if it become popular, but I suspect regular banks will start to lobby
-to get BitCoin declared illegal if it become popular.  I'm sure they
-will claim it is helping fund terrorism and money laundering (which
-probably would be true, as is any currency in existence), but I
-believe the problems should be solved elsewhere and not by blaming
-currencies.</p>
-
-<p>The process of creating new BitCoins is called mining, and it is
-CPU intensive process that depend on a bit of luck as well (as one is
-competing against all the other miners currently spending CPU cycles
-to see which one get the next lump of cash).  The "winner" get 50
-BitCoin when this happen.  Yesterday I came across the obvious way to
-join forces to increase ones changes of getting at least some coins,
-by coordinating the work on mining BitCoins across several machines
-and people, and sharing the result if one is lucky and get the 50
-BitCoins.  Check out
-<a href="http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/bitcoin-pool/">BitCoin Pool</a>
-if this sounds interesting.  I have not had time to try to set up a
-machine to participate there yet, but have seen that running on ones
-own for a few days have not yield any BitCoins througth mining
-yet.</p>
-
-<p>Update 2010-12-15: Found an <a
-href="http://inertia.posterous.com/reply-to-the-underground-economist-why-bitcoi">interesting
-criticism</a> of bitcoin.  Not quite sure how valid it is, but thought
-it was interesting to read.  The arguments presented seem to be
-equally valid for gold, which was used as a currency for many years.</p>
+<p>The last few days I have looked at ways to track open security
+issues here at my work with the University of Oslo.  My idea is that
+it should be possible to use the information about security issues
+available on the Internet, and check our locally
+maintained/distributed software against this information.  It should
+allow us to verify that no known security issues are forgotten.  The
+CVE database listing vulnerabilities seem like a great central point,
+and by using the package lists from Debian mapped to CVEs provided by
+the testing security team, I believed it should be possible to figure
+out which security holes were present in our free software
+collection.</p>
+
+<p>After reading up on the topic, it became obvious that the first
+building block is to be able to name software packages in a unique and
+consistent way across data sources.  I considered several ways to do
+this, for example coming up with my own naming scheme like using URLs
+to project home pages or URLs to the Freshmeat entries, or using some
+existing naming scheme.  And it seem like I am not the first one to
+come across this problem, as MITRE already proposed and implemented a
+solution.  Enter the <a href="http://cpe.mitre.org/index.html">Common
+Platform Enumeration</a> dictionary, a vocabulary for referring to
+software, hardware and other platform components.  The CPE ids are
+mapped to CVEs in the <a href="http://web.nvd.nist.gov/">National
+Vulnerability Database</a>, allowing me to look up know security
+issues for any CPE name.  With this in place, all I need to do is to
+locate the CPE id for the software packages we use at the university.
+This is fairly trivial (I google for 'cve cpe $package' and check the
+NVD entry if a CVE for the package exist).</p>
+
+<p>To give you an example.  The GNU gzip source package have the CPE
+name cpe:/a:gnu:gzip.  If the old version 1.3.3 was the package to
+check out, one could look up
+<a href="http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/search?cpe=cpe%3A%2Fa%3Agnu%3Agzip:1.3.3">cpe:/a:gnu:gzip:1.3.3
+in NVD</a> and get a list of 6 security holes with public CVE entries.
+The most recent one is
+<a href="http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2010-0001">CVE-2010-0001</a>,
+and at the bottom of the NVD page for this vulnerability the complete
+list of affected versions is provided.</p>
+
+<p>The NVD database of CVEs is also available as a XML dump, allowing
+for offline processing of issues.  Using this dump, I've written a
+small script taking a list of CPEs as input and list all CVEs
+affecting the packages represented by these CPEs.  One give it CPEs
+with version numbers as specified above and get a list of open
+security issues out.</p>
+
+<p>Of course for this approach to be useful, the quality of the NVD
+information need to be high.  For that to happen, I believe as many as
+possible need to use and contribute to the NVD database.  I notice
+RHEL is providing
+<a href="https://www.redhat.com/security/data/metrics/rhsamapcpe.txt">a
+map from CVE to CPE</a>, indicating that they are using the CPE
+information.  I'm not aware of Debian and Ubuntu doing the same.</p>
+
+<p>To get an idea about the quality for free software, I spent some
+time making it possible to compare the CVE database from Debian with
+the CVE database in NVD.  The result look fairly good, but there are
+some inconsistencies in NVD (same software package having several
+CPEs), and some inaccuracies (NVD not mentioning buggy packages that
+Debian believe are affected by a CVE).  Hope to find time to improve
+the quality of NVD, but that require being able to get in touch with
+someone maintaining it.  So far my three emails with questions and
+corrections have not seen any reply, but I hope contact can be
+established soon.</p>
+
+<p>An interesting application for CPEs is cross platform package
+mapping.  It would be useful to know which packages in for example
+RHEL, OpenSuSe and Mandriva are missing from Debian and Ubuntu, and
+this would be trivial if all linux distributions provided CPE entries
+for their packages.</p>

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+   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet</a>. 

   
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-  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Pornoskannerne_p___flyplassene_bedrer_visst_ikke_sikkerheten.html">Pornoskannerne på flyplassene bedrer visst ikke sikkerheten</a></div>
-  <div class="date">2010-12-11 10:45</div>
+  <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Morten_Amundsen.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Morten Amundsen</a></div>
+  <div class="date">2011-01-23 12:00</div>

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-<p>Via <a href="http://webmink.com/2010/12/10/links-for-2010-12-10/">en
-blogpost fra Simon Phipps i går</a>, fant jeg en referanse til
-<a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/dec/9/exposed-tsas-x-rated-scanner-fraud/">en
-artikkel i Washington Times</a> som igjen refererer til en artikkel i
-det fagfellevurderte tidsskriftet Journal of Transportation Security
-med tittelen
-"<a href="http://springerlink.com/content/g6620thk08679160/fulltext.html">An
-evaluation of airport x-ray backscatter units based on image
-characteristics</a>" som enkelt konstaterer at
-<a href="http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?a=2389&c=124">pornoscannerne</a>
-som kler av reisende på flyplasser ikke er i stand til å avsløre det
-produsenten og amerikanske myndigheter sier de skal avsløre.  Kort
-sagt, de bedrer ikke sikkerheten.  Reisende må altså la ansatte på
-flyplasser <a href="http://www.thousandsstandingaround.org/">se dem
-nakne eller la seg beføle i skrittet</a> uten grunn.  Jeg vil
-fortsette å nekte å bruke disse pornoskannerne, unngå flyplasser der
-de er tatt i bruk, og reise med andre transportmidler enn fly hvis jeg
-kan.</p>
+<p>Denne gangen er det Tromsøkontoret til Friprog-senteret, og nyvalgt
+styremedlem i <a href="http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">foreningen
+FRISK</a> jeg har fått i tale i min intervjuserie med
+<a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux</a>-folk.</p>
+
+<p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?</strong></p>
+
+<p>Jeg heter Morten Amundsen og jobber i
+<a href="http://www.friprog.no/">Friprog.no</a>, men er for tiden leid
+ut til <a href="http://www.bredbandsfylket.no/">Bredbåndsfylket
+Troms</a> der jeg jobber med ett prosjekt som heter
+"<a href="http://www.bredbandsfylket.no/skolefjoela.157417.no.html">Skolefjøla</a>"
+Vi ser på en åpen løsning som integrerer eksisterende lukkete
+løsninger sammen med fri programvare. Målet er å gi elever og lærere
+en plattform som de kan tilpasse utfra behov.</p>
+
+<p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?</strong></p>
+
+<p>Skolelinux har jeg møtt ved flere anledninger opp gjennom åra, både gjennom
+entusiastiske skolelinuxbrukere og skeptiske "forståsegpåere" :-)</p>
+
+<p>Jeg husker en leverandør av et stort OS for noen år siden mente at
+Skolelinux var kun for hackere og nerder og at ingen seriøse skoler
+kunne ta dette i bruk.  Heldigvis er kunnskapen større nå og
+skikkelige "IT-folk" søker alltid å utvide sin kunnskap.
+
+<p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?</strong></p>
+
+<p>Ja det er mange fordeler. Uavhengighet, stabilitet, åpenhet, standarder
+osv. Tror det er viktig at man ikke begrenser mulighetene på den plattformen
+elevene skal jobbe.</p>
+
+<p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?</strong></p>
+
+<p>Det største hinderet er det vi opplever på andre områder rundt
+fri programvare, nemlig kunnskap. For mange er det trygt å velge det vi
+alltid har valgt. Fordi leverandørene rundt oss sitter på den kunnskapen og
+de vi støtter oss på har den samme.  Hvis vi klarer å riste løs litt og
+glemme gamle kriger mellom operativsystemer og  leverandører, men sette ned
+hva som er viktig og velge ut fra det, så hadde man kanskje kommet ut med
+litt andre resultat. Jeg tror IT-folk er konservative og velger tradisjonelt
+og det er synd.</p>
+
+<p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?</strong></p>
+
+<p>Jeg bruker Ubuntu, Android, Jolicloud, Open Office, Zimbra, Picasa
+og Firefox samt en bråte med tjenester som er webbasert. Det eneste
+som er betalingslisens for er OSX.  Ser at jeg jobber mer og mer i
+skyen og setter pris på alt jeg slipper egen klient til.  Derfor er
+jeg veldig sjarmert av små kjappe operativsystemer som krever minimalt
+av maskinvaren.</p>
+
+<p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
+skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?</strong></p>
+
+<p>Tror en blanding av krav og informasjon er veien å gå. Krav om
+sikkerhet, oppetid og åpne standarder.  Informasjon om muligheter og
+alternativer. Her har leverandører, IT-avdelinger og pedagoger en vei
+å gå sammen. Det er til slutt LÆRING det dreier seg om, og da må man
+få mest mulig læring for pengene man har.</p>

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+   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>. 

   
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-<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/01/">January (1)</a></li>
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+<li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/02/">February (6)</a></li>
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+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/digistan">digistan (7)</a></li>

 
 

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+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english (86)</a></li>
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- <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (5)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju (7)</a></li>
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