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  26  <a href="../../The_sorry_state_of_multimedia_browser_plugins_in_Debian.html">The sorry state of multimedia browser plugins in Debian</a>
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  29   2008-11-25 00:10
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  34 <p>Recently I have spent some time evaluating the multimedia browser
  35 plugins available in Debian Lenny, to see which one we should use by
  36 default in Debian Edu.  We need an embedded video playing plugin with
  37 control buttons to pause or stop the video, and capable of streaming
  38 all the multimedia content available on the web.  The test results and
  39 notes are available on
  40 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/BrowserMultimedia">the
  41 Debian wiki</a>.  I was surprised how few of the plugins are able to
  42 fill this need.  My personal video player favorite, VLC, has a really
  43 bad plugin which fail on a lot of the test pages.  A lot of the MIME
  44 types I would expect to work with any free software player (like
  45 video/ogg), just do not work.  And simple formats like the
  46 audio/x-mplegurl format (m3u playlists), just isn't supported by the
  47 totem and vlc plugins.  I hope the situation will improve soon.  No
  48 wonder sites use the proprietary Adobe flash to play video.</p>
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  50 <p>For Lenny, we seem to end up with the mplayer plugin.  It seem to
  51 be the only one fitting our needs. :/</p>
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  58   Tags: <a href="../../tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="../../tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="../../tags/english">english</a>, <a href="../../tags/multimedia">multimedia</a>, <a href="../../tags/web">web</a>.
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  66  <a href="../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html">When web browser developers make a video player...</a>
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  69   2009-01-17 18:50
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  74 <p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
  75 to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
  76 page with embedded video for easy access to the recording.  Putting a
  77 good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
  78 browsers and across all operating systems is not easy.  I hope this
  79 will become easier when the &lt;video&gt; tag is implemented in all
  80 browsers, but I am not sure.  We provide the recordings in several
  81 formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
  82 browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
  83 recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
  84 There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
  85 &lt;video&gt; tag, the &lt;object&gt; tag, the &lt;embed&gt; tag and
  86 the &lt;applet&gt; tag.  All of these take a lot of options, and
  87 finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
  88
  89 <p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
  90 href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
  91 a &lt;video&gt; tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
  92 I was not very impressed.  The browser start by fetching a picture
  93 from the video stream.  Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
  94 definitely very early in the recording.  So far, so good. Next,
  95 instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
  96 of it, but do not start to play the video.  This mean I have to wait
  97 for several minutes for the downloading to finish.  When the download
  98 is done, the playing of the video do not start!  Waiting for the
  99 download, but I do not get to see the video?  Some testing later, I
 100 discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
 101 to get a play button to pres to start the video.  Adding
 102 autoplay="true" did not help.  I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
 103 test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
 104 &lt;video&gt; tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
 105 playing when the download is done.</p>
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 107 <p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
 108 <a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
 109 from the nuug site</a>.  Will have to test it with the new Firefox
 110 too.</p>
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 112 <p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature.  I was unable
 113 to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
 114 am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video.  I
 115 sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
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