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4 <title>Petter Reinholdtsen - Entries tagged multimedia
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10 <title>The sorry state of multimedia browser plugins in Debian
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13 <pubDate>Tue,
25 Nov
2008 00:
10:
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15 <p
>Recently I have spent some time evaluating the multimedia browser
16 plugins available in Debian Lenny, to see which one we should use by
17 default in Debian Edu. We need an embedded video playing plugin with
18 control buttons to pause or stop the video, and capable of streaming
19 all the multimedia content available on the web. The test results and
20 notes are available on
21 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/BrowserMultimedia
">the
22 Debian wiki
</a
>. I was surprised how few of the plugins are able to
23 fill this need. My personal video player favorite, VLC, has a really
24 bad plugin which fail on a lot of the test pages. A lot of the MIME
25 types I would expect to work with any free software player (like
26 video/ogg), just do not work. And simple formats like the
27 audio/x-mplegurl format (m3u playlists), just isn
't supported by the
28 totem and vlc plugins. I hope the situation will improve soon. No
29 wonder sites use the proprietary Adobe flash to play video.
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>
31 <p
>For Lenny, we seem to end up with the mplayer plugin. It seem to
32 be the only one fitting our needs. :/
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>
37 <title>When web browser developers make a video player...
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40 <pubDate>Sat,
17 Jan
2009 18:
50:
00 +
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42 <p
>As part of the work we do in
<a href=
"http://www.nuug.no
">NUUG
</a
>
43 to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
44 page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
45 good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
46 browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
47 will become easier when the
&lt;video
&gt; tag is implemented in all
48 browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
49 formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H
.264 and Quicktime, and want the
50 browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
51 recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
52 There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
53 &lt;video
&gt; tag, the
&lt;object
&gt; tag, the
&lt;embed
&gt; tag and
54 the
&lt;applet
&gt; tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
55 finding the best options is a major challenge.
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>
57 <p
>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from
<a
58 href=
"http://labs.opera.com
">labs.opera.com
</a
>, to see how it handled
59 a
&lt;video
&gt; tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
60 I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
61 from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
62 definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
63 instead of streaming the
76 MiB video file, it start to download all
64 of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
65 for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
66 is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
67 download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
68 discover that I have to add the controls=
"true
" attribute to be able
69 to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
70 autoplay=
"true
" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
71 test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
72 &lt;video
&gt; tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
73 playing when the download is done.
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>
75 <p
>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
76 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/
20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/
">available
77 from the nuug site
</a
>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
80 <p
>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
81 to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
82 am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
83 sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)
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>