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  13        <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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  19  <p>Entries tagged "english".</p>
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  26  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_sorry_state_of_multimedia_browser_plugins_in_Debian.html">The sorry state of multimedia browser plugins in Debian</a>
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  29   2008-11-25 00:10
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  34 <p>Recently I have spent some time evaluating the multimedia browser
  35 plugins available in Debian Lenny, to see which one we should use by
  36 default in Debian Edu.  We need an embedded video playing plugin with
  37 control buttons to pause or stop the video, and capable of streaming
  38 all the multimedia content available on the web.  The test results and
  39 notes are available on
  40 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/BrowserMultimedia">the
  41 Debian wiki</a>.  I was surprised how few of the plugins are able to
  42 fill this need.  My personal video player favorite, VLC, has a really
  43 bad plugin which fail on a lot of the test pages.  A lot of the MIME
  44 types I would expect to work with any free software player (like
  45 video/ogg), just do not work.  And simple formats like the
  46 audio/x-mplegurl format (m3u playlists), just isn't supported by the
  47 totem and vlc plugins.  I hope the situation will improve soon.  No
  48 wonder sites use the proprietary Adobe flash to play video.</p>
  49
  50 <p>For Lenny, we seem to end up with the mplayer plugin.  It seem to
  51 be the only one fitting our needs. :/</p>
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  58   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web</a>.
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  66  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Devcamp_brought_us_closer_to_the_Lenny_based_Debian_Edu_release.html">Devcamp brought us closer to the Lenny based Debian Edu release</a>
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  68  <div class="date">
  69   2008-12-07 12:00
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  73
  74 <p>This weekend we had a small developer gathering for Debian Edu in
  75 Oslo.  Most of Saturday was used for the general assemly for the
  76 member organization, but the rest of the weekend I used to tune the
  77 LTSP installation.  LTSP now work out of the box on the 10-network.
  78 Acer Aspire One proved to be a very nice thin client, with both
  79 screen, mouse and keybard in a small box.  Was working on getting the
  80 diskless workstation setup configured out of the box, but did not
  81 finish it before the weekend was up.</p>
  82
  83 <p>Did not find time to look at the 4 VGA cards in one box we got from
  84 the Brazilian group, so that will have to wait for the next
  85 development gathering.  Would love to have the Debian Edu installer
  86 automatically detect and configure a multiseat setup when it find one
  87 of these cards.</p>
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  94   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp</a>.
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 101  <div class="title">
 102  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Software_video_mixer_on_a_USB_stick.html">Software video mixer on a USB stick</a>
 103  </div>
 104  <div class="date">
 105   2008-12-28 15:40
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 109
 110 <p>The <a href="http://www.nuug.no/">Norwegian Unix User Group</a> is
 111 recording our montly presentation on video, and recently we have
 112 worked on improving the quality of the recordings by mixing the slides
 113 directly with the video stream.  For this, we use the
 114 <a href="http://dvswitch.alioth.debian.org/">dvswitch</a> package from
 115 the Debian video team.  As this require quite one computer per video
 116 source, and NUUG do not have enough laptops available, we need to
 117 borrow laptops.  And to avoid having to install extra software on
 118 these borrwed laptops, I have wrapped up all the programs needed on a
 119 bootable USB stick.  The software required is dvswitch with assosiated
 120 source, sink and mixer applications and
 121 <a href="http://www.kinodv.org/">dvgrab</a>.  To allow this setup to
 122 work without any configuration, I've patched dvswitch to use
 123 <a href="http://www.avahi.org/">avahi</a> to connect the various parts
 124 together.  And to allow us to use laptops without firewire plugs, I
 125 upgraded dvgrab to the one from Debian/unstable to get one that work
 126 with USB sources.  We have not yet tested this setup in a production
 127 setup, but I hope it will work properly, and allow us to set up a
 128 video mixer in a very short time frame.  We will need it for
 129 <a href="http://www.goopen.no/">Go Open 2009</a>.</p>
 130
 131 <p><a href="http://www.nuug.no/pub/video/bin/usbstick-dvswitch.img.gz">The
 132 USB image</a> is for a 1 GB memory stick, but can be used on any
 133 larger stick as well.</p>
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 136  <div class="tags">
 137
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 139
 140   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video</a>.
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 147  <div class="title">
 148  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html">When web browser developers make a video player...</a>
 149  </div>
 150  <div class="date">
 151   2009-01-17 18:50
 152  </div>
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 154  <div class="body">
 155
 156 <p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
 157 to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
 158 page with embedded video for easy access to the recording.  Putting a
 159 good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
 160 browsers and across all operating systems is not easy.  I hope this
 161 will become easier when the &lt;video&gt; tag is implemented in all
 162 browsers, but I am not sure.  We provide the recordings in several
 163 formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
 164 browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
 165 recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
 166 There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
 167 &lt;video&gt; tag, the &lt;object&gt; tag, the &lt;embed&gt; tag and
 168 the &lt;applet&gt; tag.  All of these take a lot of options, and
 169 finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
 170
 171 <p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
 172 href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
 173 a &lt;video&gt; tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
 174 I was not very impressed.  The browser start by fetching a picture
 175 from the video stream.  Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
 176 definitely very early in the recording.  So far, so good. Next,
 177 instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
 178 of it, but do not start to play the video.  This mean I have to wait
 179 for several minutes for the downloading to finish.  When the download
 180 is done, the playing of the video do not start!  Waiting for the
 181 download, but I do not get to see the video?  Some testing later, I
 182 discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
 183 to get a play button to pres to start the video.  Adding
 184 autoplay="true" did not help.  I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
 185 test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
 186 &lt;video&gt; tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
 187 playing when the download is done.</p>
 188
 189 <p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
 190 <a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
 191 from the nuug site</a>.  Will have to test it with the new Firefox
 192 too.</p>
 193
 194 <p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature.  I was unable
 195 to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
 196 am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video.  I
 197 sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
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 204   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web</a>.
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 210 <div class="entry">
 211  <div class="title">
 212  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Using_bar_codes_at_a_computing_center.html">Using bar codes at a computing center</a>
 213  </div>
 214  <div class="date">
 215   2009-02-20 08:50
 216  </div>
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 218  <div class="body">
 219
 220 <p>At work with the University of Oslo, we have several hundred computers
 221 in our computing center.  This give us a challenge in tracking the
 222 location and cabling of the computers, when they are added, moved and
 223 removed.  Some times the location register is not updated when a
 224 computer is inserted or moved and we then have to search the room for
 225 the "missing" computer.</p>
 226
 227 <p>In the last issue of Linux Journal, I came across a project
 228 <a href="http://www.libdmtx.org/">libdmtx</a> to write and read bar
 229 code blocks as defined in the
 230 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Matrix">The Data Matrix
 231 Standard</a>.  This is bar codes that can be read with a normal
 232 digital camera, for example that on a cell phone, and several such bar
 233 codes can be read by libdmtx from one picture.  The bar code standard
 234 allow up to 2 KiB to be written in the tag.  There is another project
 235 with <a href="http://www.terryburton.co.uk/barcodewriter/">a bar code
 236 writer written in postscript</a> capable of creating such bar codes,
 237 but this was the first time I found a tool to read these bar
 238 codes.</p>
 239
 240 <p>It occurred to me that this could be used to tag and track the
 241 machines in our computing center.  If both racks and computers are
 242 tagged this way, we can use a picture of the rack and all its
 243 computers to detect the rack location of any computer in that rack.
 244 If we do this regularly for the entire room, we will find all
 245 locations, and can detect movements and removals.</p>
 246
 247 <p>I decided to test if this would work in practice, and picked a
 248 random rack and tagged all the machines with their names.  Next, I
 249 took pictures with my digital camera, and gave the dmtxread program
 250 these JPEG pictures to see how many tags it could read.  This worked
 251 fairly well.  If the pictures was well focused and not taken from the
 252 side, all tags in the image could be read.  Because of limited space
 253 between the racks, I was unable to get a good picture of the entire
 254 rack, but could without problem read all tags from a picture covering
 255 about half the rack.  I had to limit the search time used by dmtxread
 256 to 60000 ms to make sure it terminated in a reasonable time frame.</p>
 257
 258 <p>My conclusion is that this could work, and we should probably look
 259 at adjusting our computer tagging procedures to use bar codes for
 260 easier automatic tracking of computers.</p>
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 264
 265
 266
 267   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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 273 <div class="entry">
 274  <div class="title">
 275  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Checking_server_hardware_support_status_for_Dell__HP_and_IBM_servers.html">Checking server hardware support status for Dell, HP and IBM servers</a>
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 277  <div class="date">
 278   2009-02-28 23:50
 279  </div>
 280
 281  <div class="body">
 282
 283 <p>At work, we have a few hundred Linux servers, and with that amount
 284 of hardware it is important to keep track of when the hardware support
 285 contract expire for each server.  We have a machine (and service)
 286 register, which until recently did not contain much useful besides the
 287 machine room location and contact information for the system owner for
 288 each machine.  To make it easier for us to track support contract
 289 status, I've recently spent time on extending the machine register to
 290 include information about when the support contract expire, and to tag
 291 machines with expired contracts to make it easy to get a list of such
 292 machines.  I extended a perl script already being used to import
 293 information about machines into the register, to also do some screen
 294 scraping off the sites of Dell, HP and IBM (our majority of machines
 295 are from these vendors), and automatically check the support status
 296 for the relevant machines.  This make the support status information
 297 easily available and I hope it will make it easier for the computer
 298 owner to know when to get new hardware or renew the support contract.
 299 The result of this work documented that 27% of the machines in the
 300 registry is without a support contract, and made it very easy to find
 301 them.  27% might seem like a lot, but I see it more as the case of us
 302 using machines a bit longer than the 3 years a normal support contract
 303 last, to have test machines and a platform for less important
 304 services.  After all, the machines without a contract are working fine
 305 at the moment and the lack of contract is only a problem if any of
 306 them break down.  When that happen, we can either fix it using spare
 307 parts from other machines or move the service to another old
 308 machine.</p>
 309
 310 <p>I believe the code for screen scraping the Dell site was originally
 311 written by Trond Hasle Amundsen, and later adjusted by me and Morten
 312 Werner Forsbring.  The HP scraping was written by me after reading a
 313 nice article in ;login: about how to use WWW::Mechanize, and the IBM
 314 scraping was written by me based on the Dell code.  I know the HTML
 315 parsing could be done using nice libraries, but did not want to
 316 introduce more dependencies.  This is the current incarnation:</p>
 317
 318 <pre>
 319 use LWP::Simple;
 320 use POSIX;
 321 use WWW::Mechanize;
 322 use Date::Parse;
 323 [...]
 324 sub get_support_info {
 325     my ($machine, $model, $serial, $productnumber) = @_;
 326     my $str;
 327
 328     if ( $model =~ m/^Dell / ) {
 329         # fetch website from Dell support
 330         my $url = "http://support.euro.dell.com/support/topics/topic.aspx/emea/shared/support/my_systems_info/no/details?c=no&amp;cs=nodhs1&amp;l=no&amp;s=dhs&amp;ServiceTag=$serial";
 331         my $webpage = get($url);
 332         return undef unless ($webpage);
 333
 334         my $daysleft = -1;
 335         my @lines = split(/\n/, $webpage);
 336         foreach my $line (@lines) {
 337             next unless ($line =~ m/Beskrivelse/);
 338             $line =~ s/&lt;[^>]+?>/;/gm;
 339             $line =~ s/^.+?;(Beskrivelse;)/$1/;
 340
 341             my @f = split(/\;/, $line);
 342             @f = @f[13 .. $#f];
 343             my $lastend = "";
 344             while ($f[3] eq "DELL") {
 345                 my ($type, $startstr, $endstr, $days) = @f[0, 5, 7, 10];
 346
 347                 my $start = POSIX::strftime("%Y-%m-%d",
 348                                             localtime(str2time($startstr)));
 349                 my $end = POSIX::strftime("%Y-%m-%d",
 350                                           localtime(str2time($endstr)));
 351                 $str .= "$type $start -> $end ";
 352                 @f = @f[14 .. $#f];
 353                 $lastend = $end if ($end gt $lastend);
 354             }
 355             my $today = POSIX::strftime("%Y-%m-%d", localtime(time));
 356             tag_machine_unsupported($machine)
 357                 if ($lastend lt $today);
 358         }
 359     } elsif ( $model =~ m/^HP / ) {
 360         my $mech = WWW::Mechanize->new();
 361         my $url =
 362             'http://www1.itrc.hp.com/service/ewarranty/warrantyInput.do';
 363         $mech->get($url);
 364         my $fields = {
 365             'BODServiceID' => 'NA',
 366             'RegisteredPurchaseDate' => '',
 367             'country' => 'NO',
 368             'productNumber' => $productnumber,
 369             'serialNumber1' => $serial,
 370         };
 371         $mech->submit_form( form_number => 2,
 372                             fields      => $fields );
 373         # Next step is screen scraping
 374         my $content = $mech->content();
 375
 376         $content =~ s/&lt;[^>]+?>/;/gm;
 377         $content =~ s/\s+/ /gm;
 378         $content =~ s/;\s*;/;;/gm;
 379         $content =~ s/;[\s;]+/;/gm;
 380
 381         my $today = POSIX::strftime("%Y-%m-%d", localtime(time));
 382
 383         while ($content =~ m/;Warranty Type;/) {
 384             my ($type, $status, $startstr, $stopstr) = $content =~
 385                 m/;Warranty Type;([^;]+);.+?;Status;(\w+);Start Date;([^;]+);End Date;([^;]+);/;
 386             $content =~ s/^.+?;Warranty Type;//;
 387             my $start = POSIX::strftime("%Y-%m-%d",
 388                                         localtime(str2time($startstr)));
 389             my $end = POSIX::strftime("%Y-%m-%d",
 390                                       localtime(str2time($stopstr)));
 391
 392             $str .= "$type ($status) $start -> $end ";
 393
 394             tag_machine_unsupported($machine)
 395                 if ($end lt $today);
 396         }
 397     } elsif ( $model =~ m/^IBM / ) {
 398         # This code ignore extended support contracts.
 399         my ($producttype) = $model =~ m/.*-\[(.{4}).+\]-/;
 400         if ($producttype &amp;&amp; $serial) {
 401             my $content =
 402                 get("http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/supportsite.wss/warranty?action=warranty&amp;brandind=5000008&amp;Submit=Submit&amp;type=$producttype&amp;serial=$serial");
 403             if ($content) {
 404                 $content =~ s/&lt;[^>]+?>/;/gm;
 405                 $content =~ s/\s+/ /gm;
 406                 $content =~ s/;\s*;/;;/gm;
 407                 $content =~ s/;[\s;]+/;/gm;
 408
 409                 $content =~ s/^.+?;Warranty status;//;
 410                 my ($status, $end) = $content =~ m/;Warranty status;([^;]+)\s*;Expiration date;(\S+) ;/;
 411
 412                 $str .= "($status) -> $end ";
 413
 414                 my $today = POSIX::strftime("%Y-%m-%d", localtime(time));
 415                 tag_machine_unsupported($machine)
 416                     if ($end lt $today);
 417             }
 418         }
 419     }
 420     return $str;
 421 }
 422 </pre>
 423
 424 <p>Here are some examples on how to use the function, using fake
 425 serial numbers.  The information passed in as arguments are fetched
 426 from dmidecode.</p>
 427
 428 <pre>
 429 print get_support_info("hp.host", "HP ProLiant BL460c G1", "1234567890"
 430                        "447707-B21");
 431 print get_support_info("dell.host", "Dell Inc. PowerEdge 2950", "1234567");
 432 print get_support_info("ibm.host", "IBM eserver xSeries 345 -[867061X]-",
 433                        "1234567");
 434 </pre>
 435
 436 <p>I would recommend this approach for tracking support contracts for
 437 everyone with more than a few computers to administer. :)</p>
 438
 439 <p>Update 2009-03-06: The IBM page do not include extended support
 440 contracts, so it is useless in that case.  The original Dell code do
 441 not handle extended support contracts either, but has been updated to
 442 do so.</p>
 443
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 447
 448
 449   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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 455 <div class="entry">
 456  <div class="title">
 457  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Time_for_new__LDAP_schemas_replacing_RFC_2307_.html">Time for new  LDAP schemas replacing RFC 2307?</a>
 458  </div>
 459  <div class="date">
 460   2009-03-29 20:30
 461  </div>
 462
 463  <div class="body">
 464
 465 <p>The state of standardized LDAP schemas on Linux is far from
 466 optimal.  There is RFC 2307 documenting one way to store NIS maps in
 467 LDAP, and a modified version of this normally called RFC 2307bis, with
 468 some modifications to be compatible with Active Directory.  The RFC
 469 specification handle the content of a lot of system databases, but do
 470 not handle DNS zones and DHCP configuration.</p>
 471
 472 <p>In <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu/Skolelinux</a>,
 473 we would like to store information about users, SMB clients/hosts,
 474 filegroups, netgroups (users and hosts), DHCP and DNS configuration,
 475 and LTSP configuration in LDAP.  These objects have a lot in common,
 476 but with the current LDAP schemas it is not possible to have one
 477 object per entity.  For example, one need to have at least three LDAP
 478 objects for a given computer, one with the SMB related stuff, one with
 479 DNS information and another with DHCP information.  The schemas
 480 provided for DNS and DHCP are impossible to combine into one LDAP
 481 object.  In addition, it is impossible to implement quick queries for
 482 netgroup membership, because of the way NIS triples are implemented.
 483 It just do not scale.  I believe it is time for a few RFC
 484 specifications to cleam up this mess.</p>
 485
 486 <p>I would like to have one LDAP object representing each computer in
 487 the network, and this object can then keep the SMB (ie host key), DHCP
 488 (mac address/name) and DNS (name/IP address) settings in one place.
 489 It need to be efficently stored to make sure it scale well.</p>
 490
 491 <p>I would also like to have a quick way to map from a user or
 492 computer and to the net group this user or computer is a member.</p>
 493
 494 <p>Active Directory have done a better job than unix heads like myself
 495 in this regard, and the unix side need to catch up.  Time to start a
 496 new IETF work group?</p>
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 499  <div class="tags">
 500
 501
 502
 503   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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 509 <div class="entry">
 510  <div class="title">
 511  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Returning_from_Skolelinux_developer_gathering.html">Returning from Skolelinux developer gathering</a>
 512  </div>
 513  <div class="date">
 514   2009-03-29 21:00
 515  </div>
 516
 517  <div class="body">
 518
 519 <p>I'm sitting on the train going home from this weekends Debian
 520 Edu/Skolelinux development gathering.  I got a bit done tuning the
 521 desktop, and looked into the dynamic service location protocol
 522 implementation avahi.  It look like it could be useful for us.  Almost
 523 30 people participated, and I believe it was a great environment to
 524 get to know the Skolelinux system.  Walter Bender, involved in the
 525 development of the Sugar educational platform, presented his stuff and
 526 also helped me improve my OLPC installation.  He also showed me that
 527 his Turtle Art application can be used in standalone mode, and we
 528 agreed that I would help getting it packaged for Debian.  As a
 529 standalone application it would be great for Debian Edu.  We also
 530 tried to get the video conferencing working with two OLPCs, but that
 531 proved to be too hard for us.  The application seem to need more work
 532 before it is ready for me.  I look forward to getting home and relax
 533 now. :)</p>
 534
 535  </div>
 536  <div class="tags">
 537
 538
 539
 540   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
 541
 542  </div>
 543 </div>
 544 <div class="padding"></div>
 545
 546 <div class="entry">
 547  <div class="title">
 548  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Standardize_on_protocols_and_formats__not_vendors_and_applications.html">Standardize on protocols and formats, not vendors and applications</a>
 549  </div>
 550  <div class="date">
 551   2009-03-30 11:50
 552  </div>
 553
 554  <div class="body">
 555
 556 <p>Where I work at the University of Oslo, one decision stand out as a
 557 very good one to form a long lived computer infrastructure.  It is the
 558 simple one, lost by many in todays computer industry: Standardize on
 559 open network protocols and open exchange/storage formats, not applications.
 560 Applications come and go, while protocols and files tend to stay, and
 561 thus one want to make it easy to change application and vendor, while
 562 avoiding conversion costs and locking users to a specific platform or
 563 application.</p>
 564
 565 <p>This approach make it possible to replace the client applications
 566 independently of the server applications.  One can even allow users to
 567 use several different applications as long as they handle the selected
 568 protocol and format.  In the normal case, only one client application
 569 is recommended and users only get help if they choose to use this
 570 application, but those that want to deviate from the easy path are not
 571 blocked from doing so.</p>
 572
 573 <p>It also allow us to replace the server side without forcing the
 574 users to replace their applications, and thus allow us to select the
 575 best server implementation at any moment, when scale and resouce
 576 requirements change.</p>
 577
 578 <p>I strongly recommend standardizing - on open network protocols and
 579 open formats, but I would never recommend standardizing on a single
 580 application that do not use open network protocol or open formats.</p>
 581
 582  </div>
 583  <div class="tags">
 584
 585
 586
 587   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard</a>.
 588
 589  </div>
 590 </div>
 591 <div class="padding"></div>
 592
 593 <div class="entry">
 594  <div class="title">
 595  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Recording_video_from_cron_using_VLC.html">Recording video from cron using VLC</a>
 596  </div>
 597  <div class="date">
 598   2009-04-05 10:00
 599  </div>
 600
 601  <div class="body">
 602
 603 <p>One think I have wanted to figure out for a along time is how to
 604 run vlc from cron to do recording of video streams on the net.  The
 605 task is trivial with mplayer, but I do not really trust the security
 606 of mplayer (it crashes too often on strange input), and thus prefer
 607 vlc.  I finally found a way to do it today.  I spent an hour or so
 608 searching the web for recipes and reading the documentation.  The
 609 hardest part was to get rid of the GUI window, but after finding the
 610 dummy interface, the command line finally presented itself:</p>
 611
 612 <blockquote><pre>URL=http://www.ping.uio.no/video/rms-oslo_2009.ogg
 613 SAVEFILE=rms.ogg
 614 DISPLAY= vlc -q $URL \
 615   --sout="#duplicate{dst=std{access=file,url='$SAVEFILE'},dst=nodisplay}" \
 616   --intf=dummy</pre></blockquote>
 617
 618 <p>The command stream the URL and store it in the SAVEFILE by
 619 duplicating the output stream to "nodisplay" and the file, using the
 620 dummy interface.  The dummy interface and the nodisplay output make
 621 sure no X interface is needed.</p>
 622
 623 <p>The cron job then need to start this job with the appropriate URL
 624 and file name to save, sleep for the duration wanted, and then kill
 625 the vlc process with SIGTERM.  Here is a complete script
 626 <tt>vlc-record</tt> to use from <tt>at</tt> or <tt>cron</tt>:</p>
 627
 628 <blockquote><pre>#!/bin/sh
 629 set -e
 630 URL="$1"
 631 SAVEFILE="$2"
 632 DURATION="$3"
 633 DISPLAY= vlc -q "$URL" \
 634   --sout="#duplicate{dst=std{access=file,url='$SAVEFILE'},dst=nodisplay}" \
 635   --intf=dummy < /dev/null > /dev/null 2>&1 &
 636 pid=$!
 637 sleep $DURATION
 638 kill $pid
 639 wait $pid</pre></blockquote>
 640
 641  </div>
 642  <div class="tags">
 643
 644
 645
 646   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video</a>.
 647
 648  </div>
 649 </div>
 650 <div class="padding"></div>
 651
 652 <div class="entry">
 653  <div class="title">
 654  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/No_patch_is_not_better_than_a_useless_patch.html">No patch is not better than a useless patch</a>
 655  </div>
 656  <div class="date">
 657   2009-04-28 09:30
 658  </div>
 659
 660  <div class="body">
 661
 662 <p>Julien Blache
 663 <a href="http://blog.technologeek.org/2009/04/12/214">claim that no
 664 patch is better than a useless patch</a>.  I completely disagree, as a
 665 patch allow one to discuss a concrete and proposed solution, and also
 666 prove that the issue at hand is important enough for someone to spent
 667 time on fixing it.  No patch do not provide any of these positive
 668 properties.</p>
 669
 670  </div>
 671  <div class="tags">
 672
 673
 674
 675   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
 676
 677  </div>
 678 </div>
 679 <div class="padding"></div>
 680
 681 <div class="entry">
 682  <div class="title">
 683  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Two_projects_that_have_improved_the_quality_of_free_software_a_lot.html">Two projects that have improved the quality of free software a lot</a>
 684  </div>
 685  <div class="date">
 686   2009-05-02 15:00
 687  </div>
 688
 689  <div class="body">
 690
 691 <p>There are two software projects that have had huge influence on the
 692 quality of free software, and I wanted to mention both in case someone
 693 do not yet know them.</p>
 694
 695 <p>The first one is <a href="http://valgrind.org/">valgrind</a>, a
 696 tool to detect and expose errors in the memory handling of programs.
 697 It is easy to use, all one need to do is to run 'valgrind program',
 698 and it will report any problems on stdout.  It is even better if the
 699 program include debug information.  With debug information, it is able
 700 to report the source file name and line number where the problem
 701 occurs.  It can report things like 'reading past memory block in file
 702 X line N, the memory block was allocated in file Y, line M', and
 703 'using uninitialised value in control logic'.  This tool has made it
 704 trivial to investigate reproducible crash bugs in programs, and have
 705 reduced the number of this kind of bugs in free software a lot.
 706
 707 <p>The second one is
 708 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coverity">Coverity</a> which is
 709 a source code checker.  It is able to process the source of a program
 710 and find problems in the logic without running the program.  It
 711 started out as the Stanford Checker and became well known when it was
 712 used to find bugs in the Linux kernel.  It is now a commercial tool
 713 and the company behind it is running
 714 <a href="http://www.scan.coverity.com/">a community service</a> for the
 715 free software community, where a lot of free software projects get
 716 their source checked for free.  Several thousand defects have been
 717 found and fixed so far.  It can find errors like 'lock L taken in file
 718 X line N is never released if exiting in line M', or 'the code in file
 719 Y lines O to P can never be executed'.  The projects included in the
 720 community service project have managed to get rid of a lot of
 721 reliability problems thanks to Coverity.</p>
 722
 723 <p>I believe tools like this, that are able to automatically find
 724 errors in the source, are vital to improve the quality of software and
 725 make sure we can get rid of the crashing and failing software we are
 726 surrounded by today.</p>
 727
 728  </div>
 729  <div class="tags">
 730
 731
 732
 733   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
 734
 735  </div>
 736 </div>
 737 <div class="padding"></div>
 738
 739 <div class="entry">
 740  <div class="title">
 741  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_boots_quicker_and_quicker.html">Debian boots quicker and quicker</a>
 742  </div>
 743  <div class="date">
 744   2009-06-24 21:40
 745  </div>
 746
 747  <div class="body">
 748
 749 <p>I spent Monday and tuesday this week in London with a lot of the
 750 people involved in the boot system on Debian and Ubuntu, to see if we
 751 could find more ways to speed up the boot system.  This was an Ubuntu
 752 funded
 753 <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/BootPerformance/DebianUbuntuSprint">developer
 754 gathering</a>. It was quite productive.  We also discussed the future
 755 of boot systems, and ways to handle the increasing number of boot
 756 issues introduced by the Linux kernel becoming more and more
 757 asynchronous and event base.  The Ubuntu approach using udev and
 758 upstart might be a good way forward.  Time will show.</p>
 759
 760 <p>Anyway, there are a few ways at the moment to speed up the boot
 761 process in Debian.  All of these should be applied to get a quick
 762 boot:</p>
 763
 764 <ul>
 765
 766 <li>Use dash as /bin/sh.</li>
 767
 768 <li>Disable the init.d/hwclock*.sh scripts and make sure the hardware
 769    clock is in UTC.</li>
 770
 771 <li>Install and activate the insserv package to enable
 772    <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot">dependency
 773    based boot sequencing</a>, and enable concurrent booting.</li>
 774
 775 </ul>
 776
 777 These points are based on the Google summer of code work done by
 778 <a href="http://initscripts-ng.alioth.debian.org/soc2006-bootsystem/">Carlos
 779 Villegas</a>.
 780
 781 <p>Support for makefile-style concurrency during boot was uploaded to
 782 unstable yesterday.  When we tested it, we were able to cut 6 seconds
 783 from the boot sequence.  It depend on very correct dependency
 784 declaration in all init.d scripts, so I expect us to find edge cases
 785 where the dependences in some scripts are slightly wrong when we start
 786 using this.</p>
 787
 788 <p>On our IRC channel for this effort, #pkg-sysvinit, a new idea was
 789 introduced by Raphael Geissert today, one that could affect the
 790 startup speed as well.  Instead of starting some scripts concurrently
 791 from rcS.d/ and another set of scripts from rc2.d/, it would be
 792 possible to run a of them in the same process.  A quick way to test
 793 this would be to enable insserv and run 'mv /etc/rc2.d/S* /etc/rcS.d/;
 794 insserv'.  Will need to test if that work. :)</p>
 795
 796  </div>
 797  <div class="tags">
 798
 799
 800
 801   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
 802
 803  </div>
 804 </div>
 805 <div class="padding"></div>
 806
 807 <div class="entry">
 808  <div class="title">
 809  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Taking_over_sysvinit_development.html">Taking over sysvinit development</a>
 810  </div>
 811  <div class="date">
 812   2009-07-22 23:00
 813  </div>
 814
 815  <div class="body">
 816
 817 <p>After several years of frustration with the lack of activity from
 818 the existing sysvinit upstream developer, I decided a few weeks ago to
 819 take over the package and become the new upstream.  The number of
 820 patches to track for the Debian package was becoming a burden, and the
 821 lack of synchronization between the distribution made it hard to keep
 822 the package up to date.</p>
 823
 824 <p>On the new sysvinit team is the SuSe maintainer Dr. Werner Fink,
 825 and my Debian co-maintainer Kel Modderman.  About 10 days ago, I made
 826 a new upstream tarball with version number 2.87dsf (for Debian, SuSe
 827 and Fedora), based on the patches currently in use in these
 828 distributions.  We Debian maintainers plan to move to this tarball as
 829 the new upstream as soon as we find time to do the merge.  Since the
 830 new tarball was created, we agreed with Werner at SuSe to make a new
 831 upstream project at <a href="http://savannah.nongnu.org/">Savannah</a>, and continue
 832 development there.  The project is registered and currently waiting
 833 for approval by the Savannah administrators, and as soon as it is
 834 approved, we will import the old versions from svn and continue
 835 working on the future release.</p>
 836
 837 <p>It is a bit ironic that this is done now, when some of the involved
 838 distributions are moving to upstart as a syvinit replacement.</p>
 839
 840  </div>
 841  <div class="tags">
 842
 843
 844
 845   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
 846
 847  </div>
 848 </div>
 849 <div class="padding"></div>
 850
 851 <div class="entry">
 852  <div class="title">
 853  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_has_switched_to_dependency_based_boot_sequencing.html">Debian has switched to dependency based boot sequencing</a>
 854  </div>
 855  <div class="date">
 856   2009-07-27 23:50
 857  </div>
 858
 859  <div class="body">
 860
 861 <p>Since this evening, with the upload of sysvinit version 2.87dsf-2,
 862 and the upload of insserv version 1.12.0-10 yesterday, Debian unstable
 863 have been migrated to using dependency based boot sequencing.  This
 864 conclude work me and others have been doing for the last three days.
 865 It feels great to see this finally part of the default Debian
 866 installation.  Now we just need to weed out the last few problems that
 867 are bound to show up, to get everything ready for Squeeze.</p>
 868
 869 <p>The next step is migrating /sbin/init from sysvinit to upstart, and
 870 fixing the more fundamental problem of handing the event based
 871 non-predictable kernel in the early boot.</p>
 872
 873  </div>
 874  <div class="tags">
 875
 876
 877
 878   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
 879
 880  </div>
 881 </div>
 882 <div class="padding"></div>
 883
 884 <div class="entry">
 885  <div class="title">
 886  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/ISO_still_hope_to_fix_OOXML.html">ISO still hope to fix OOXML</a>
 887  </div>
 888  <div class="date">
 889   2009-08-08 14:00
 890  </div>
 891
 892  <div class="body">
 893
 894 <p>According to <a
 895 href="http://twerner.blogspot.com/2009/08/defects-of-office-open-xml.html">a
 896 blog post from Torsten Werner</a>, the current defect report for ISO
 897 29500 (ISO OOXML) is 809 pages.  His interesting point is that the
 898 defect report is 71 pages more than the full ODF 1.1 specification.
 899 Personally I find it more interesting that ISO still believe ISO OOXML
 900 can be fixed in ISO.  Personally, I believe it is broken beyon repair,
 901 and I completely lack any trust in ISO for being able to get anywhere
 902 close to solving the problems.  I was part of the Norwegian committee
 903 involved in the OOXML fast track process, and was not impressed with
 904 Standard Norway and ISO in how they handled it.</p>
 905
 906 <p>These days I focus on ODF instead, which seem like a specification
 907 with the future ahead of it.  We are working in NUUG to organise a ODF
 908 seminar this autumn.</p>
 909
 910  </div>
 911  <div class="tags">
 912
 913
 914
 915   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard</a>.
 916
 917  </div>
 918 </div>
 919 <div class="padding"></div>
 920
 921 <div class="entry">
 922  <div class="title">
 923  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Relative_popularity_of_document_formats__MS_Office_vs__ODF_.html">Relative popularity of document formats (MS Office vs. ODF)</a>
 924  </div>
 925  <div class="date">
 926   2009-08-12 15:50
 927  </div>
 928
 929  <div class="body">
 930
 931 <p>Just for fun, I did a search right now on Google for a few file ODF
 932 and MS Office based formats (not to be mistaken for ISO or ECMA
 933 OOXML), to get an idea of their relative usage.  I searched using
 934 'filetype:odt' and equvalent terms, and got these results:</P>
 935
 936 <table>
 937 <tr><th>Type</th><th>ODF</th><th>MS Office</th></tr>
 938 <tr><td>Tekst</td> <td>odt:282000</td> <td>docx:308000</td></tr>
 939 <tr><td>Presentasjon</td> <td>odp:75600</td> <td>pptx:183000</td></tr>
 940 <tr><td>Regneark</td> <td>ods:26500     </td> <td>xlsx:145000</td></tr>
 941 </table>
 942
 943 <p>Next, I added a 'site:no' limit to get the numbers for Norway, and
 944 got these numbers:</p>
 945
 946 <table>
 947 <tr><th>Type</th><th>ODF</th><th>MS Office</th></tr>
 948 <tr><td>Tekst</td> <td>odt:2480 </td> <td>docx:4460</td></tr>
 949 <tr><td>Presentasjon</td> <td>odp:299   </td> <td>pptx:741</td></tr>
 950 <tr><td>Regneark</td> <td>ods:187       </td> <td>xlsx:372</td></tr>
 951 </table>
 952
 953 <p>I wonder how these numbers change over time.</p>
 954
 955 <p>I am aware of Google returning different results and numbers based
 956 on where the search is done, so I guess these numbers will differ if
 957 they are conduced in another country.  Because of this, I did the same
 958 search from a machine in California, USA, a few minutes after the
 959 search done from a machine here in Norway.</p>
 960
 961
 962 <table>
 963 <tr><th>Type</th><th>ODF</th><th>MS Office</th></tr>
 964 <tr><td>Tekst</td> <td>odt:129000</td> <td>docx:308000</td></tr>
 965 <tr><td>Presentasjon</td> <td>odp:44200</td> <td>pptx:93900</td></tr>
 966 <tr><td>Regneark</td> <td>ods:26500     </td> <td>xlsx:82400</td></tr>
 967 </table>
 968
 969 <p>And with 'site:no':
 970
 971 <table>
 972 <tr><th>Type</th><th>ODF</th><th>MS Office</th></tr>
 973 <tr><td>Tekst</td> <td>odt:2480</td> <td>docx:3410</td></tr>
 974 <tr><td>Presentasjon</td> <td>odp:175</td> <td>pptx:604</td></tr>
 975 <tr><td>Regneark</td> <td>ods:186       </td> <td>xlsx:296</td></tr>
 976 </table>
 977
 978 <p>Interesting difference, not sure what to conclude from these
 979 numbers.</p>
 980
 981  </div>
 982  <div class="tags">
 983
 984
 985
 986   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web</a>.
 987
 988  </div>
 989 </div>
 990 <div class="padding"></div>
 991
 992 <div class="entry">
 993  <div class="title">
 994  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_Munin_and_Nagios_configuration.html">Automatic Munin and Nagios configuration</a>
 995  </div>
 996  <div class="date">
 997   2010-01-27 15:15
 998  </div>
 999
1000  <div class="body">
1001
1002 <p>One of the new features in the next Debian/Lenny based release of
1003 Debian Edu/Skolelinux, which is scheduled for release in the next few
1004 days, is automatic configuration of the service monitoring system
1005 Nagios.  The previous release had automatic configuration of trend
1006 analysis using Munin, and this Lenny based release take that a step
1007 further.</p>
1008
1009 <p>When installing a Debian Edu Main-server, it is automatically
1010 configured as a Munin and Nagios server.  In addition, it is
1011 configured to be a server for the
1012 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/SiteSummary">SiteSummary
1013 system</a> I have written for use in Debian Edu.  The SiteSummary
1014 system is inspired by a system used by the University of Oslo where I
1015 work.  In short, the system provide a centralised collector of
1016 information about the computers on the network, and a client on each
1017 computer submitting information to this collector.  This allow for
1018 automatic information on which packages are installed on each machine,
1019 which kernel the machines are using, what kind of configuration the
1020 packages got etc.  This also allow us to automatically generate Munin
1021 and Nagios configuration.</p>
1022
1023 <p>All computers reporting to the sitesummary collector with the
1024 munin-node package installed is automatically enabled as a Munin
1025 client and graphs from the statistics collected from that machine show
1026 up automatically on http://www/munin/ on the Main-server.</p>
1027
1028 <p>All non-laptop computers reporting to the sitesummary collector are
1029 automatically monitored for network presence (ping and any network
1030 services detected).  In addition, all computers (also laptops) with
1031 the nagios-nrpe-server package installed and configured the way
1032 sitesummary would configure it, are monitored for full disks, software
1033 raid status, swap free and other checks that need to run locally on
1034 the machine.</p>
1035
1036 <p>The result is that the administrator on a school using Debian Edu
1037 based on Lenny will be able to check the health of his installation
1038 with one look at the Nagios settings, without having to spend any time
1039 keeping the Nagios configuration up-to-date.</p>
1040
1041 <p>The only configuration one need to do to get Nagios up and running
1042 is to set the password used to get access via HTTP.  The system
1043 administrator need to run "<tt>htpasswd /etc/nagios3/htpasswd.users
1044 nagiosadmin</tt>" to create a nagiosadmin user and set a password for
1045 it to be able to log into the Nagios web pages.  After that,
1046 everything is taken care of.</p>
1047
1048  </div>
1049  <div class="tags">
1050
1051
1052
1053   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary</a>.
1054
1055  </div>
1056 </div>
1057 <div class="padding"></div>
1058
1059 <div class="entry">
1060  <div class="title">
1061  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Lenny_released__work_continues.html">Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Lenny released, work continues</a>
1062  </div>
1063  <div class="date">
1064   2010-02-11 17:15
1065  </div>
1066
1067  <div class="body">
1068
1069 <p>On Tuesday, the Debian/Lenny based version of
1070 <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux</a> was finally
1071 shipped.  This was a major leap forward for the project, and I am very
1072 pleased that we finally got the release wrapped up.  Work on the first
1073 point release starts imediately, as we plan to get that one out a
1074 month after the major release, to include all fixes for bugs we found
1075 and fixed too late in the release process to include last Tuesday.</p>
1076
1077 <p>Perhaps it even is time for some partying?</p>
1078
1079 <p>After this first point release, my plan is to focus again on the
1080 next major release, based on Squeeze.  We will try to get as many of
1081 the fixes we need into the official Debian packages before the freeze,
1082 and have just a few weeks or months to make it happen.</p>
1083
1084  </div>
1085  <div class="tags">
1086
1087
1088
1089   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
1090
1091  </div>
1092 </div>
1093 <div class="padding"></div>
1094
1095 <div class="entry">
1096  <div class="title">
1097  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/After_6_years_of_waiting__the_Xreset_d_feature_is_implemented.html">After 6 years of waiting, the Xreset.d feature is implemented</a>
1098  </div>
1099  <div class="date">
1100   2010-03-06 18:15
1101  </div>
1102
1103  <div class="body">
1104
1105 <p>6 years ago, as part of the Debian Edu development I am involved
1106 in, I asked for a hook in the kdm and gdm setup to run scripts as root
1107 when the user log out.  A bug was submitted against the xfree86-common
1108 package in 2004 (<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/230422">#230422</a>),
1109 and revisited every time Debian Edu was working on a new release.
1110 Today, this finally paid off.</p>
1111
1112 <p>The framework for this feature was today commited to the git
1113 repositry for the xorg package, and the git repository for xdm has
1114 been updated to use this framework.  Next on my agenda is to make sure
1115 kdm and gdm also add code to use this framework.</p>
1116
1117 <p>In Debian Edu, we want to ability to run commands as root when the
1118 user log out, to get rid of runaway processes and do general cleanup
1119 after a user.  With this framework in place, we finally can do that in
1120 a generic way that work with all display managers using this
1121 framework.  My goal is to get all display managers in Debian use it,
1122 similar to how they use the Xsession.d framework today.<p>
1123
1124  </div>
1125  <div class="tags">
1126
1127
1128
1129   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
1130
1131  </div>
1132 </div>
1133 <div class="padding"></div>
1134
1135 <div class="entry">
1136  <div class="title">
1137  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Kerberos_for_Debian_Edu_Squeeze_.html">Kerberos for Debian Edu/Squeeze?</a>
1138  </div>
1139  <div class="date">
1140   2010-04-14 17:20
1141  </div>
1142
1143  <div class="body">
1144
1145 <p><a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20100413-kerberos/">Yesterdays
1146 NUUG presentation</a> about Kerberos was inspiring, and reminded me
1147 about the need to start using Kerberos in Skolelinux.  Setting up a
1148 Kerberos server seem to be straight forward, and if we get this in
1149 place a long time before the Squeeze version of Debian freezes, we
1150 have a chance to migrate Skolelinux away from NFSv3 for the home
1151 directories, and over to an architecture where the infrastructure do
1152 not have to trust IP addresses and machines, and instead can trust
1153 users and cryptographic keys instead.</p>
1154
1155 <p>A challenge will be integration and administration.  Is there a
1156 Kerberos implementation for Debian where one can control the
1157 administration access in Kerberos using LDAP groups?  With it, the
1158 school administration will have to maintain access control using flat
1159 files on the main server, which give a huge potential for errors.</p>
1160
1161 <p>A related question I would like to know is how well Kerberos and
1162 pam-ccreds (offline password check) work together.  Anyone know?</p>
1163
1164 <p>Next step will be to use Kerberos for access control in Lwat and
1165 Nagios.  I have no idea how much work that will be to implement.  We
1166 would also need to document how to integrate with Windows AD, as such
1167 shared network will require two Kerberos realms that need to cooperate
1168 to work properly.</p>
1169
1170 <p>I believe a good start would be to start using Kerberos on the
1171 skolelinux.no machines, and this way get ourselves experience with
1172 configuration and integration.  A natural starting point would be
1173 setting up ldap.skolelinux.no as the Kerberos server, and migrate the
1174 rest of the machines from PAM via LDAP to PAM via Kerberos one at the
1175 time.</p>
1176
1177 <p>If you would like to contribute to get this working in Skolelinux,
1178 I recommend you to see the video recording from yesterdays NUUG
1179 presentation, and start using Kerberos at home.  The video show show
1180 up in a few days.</p>
1181
1182  </div>
1183  <div class="tags">
1184
1185
1186
1187   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
1188
1189  </div>
1190 </div>
1191 <div class="padding"></div>
1192
1193 <div class="entry">
1194  <div class="title">
1195  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Great_book___Content__Selected_Essays_on_Technology__Creativity__Copyright__and_the_Future_of_the_Future_.html">Great book: "Content: Selected Essays on Technology, Creativity, Copyright, and the Future of the Future"</a>
1196  </div>
1197  <div class="date">
1198   2010-04-19 17:10
1199  </div>
1200
1201  <div class="body">
1202
1203 <p>The last few weeks i have had the pleasure of reading a
1204 thought-provoking collection of essays by Cory Doctorow, on topics
1205 touching copyright, virtual worlds, the future of man when the
1206 conscience mind can be duplicated into a computer and many more. The
1207 book titled "Content: Selected Essays on Technology, Creativity,
1208 Copyright, and the Future of the Future" is available with few
1209 restrictions on the web, for example from
1210 <a href="http://craphound.com/content/">his own site</a>. I read the
1211 epub-version from
1212 <a href="http://www.feedbooks.com/book/2883">feedbooks</a> using
1213 <a href="http://www.fbreader.org/">fbreader</a> and my N810. I
1214 strongly recommend this book.</p>
1215
1216  </div>
1217  <div class="tags">
1218
1219
1220
1221   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web</a>.
1222
1223  </div>
1224 </div>
1225 <div class="padding"></div>
1226
1227 <div class="entry">
1228  <div class="title">
1229  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Thoughts_on_roaming_laptop_setup_for_Debian_Edu.html">Thoughts on roaming laptop setup for Debian Edu</a>
1230  </div>
1231  <div class="date">
1232   2010-04-28 20:40
1233  </div>
1234
1235  <div class="body">
1236
1237 <p>For some years now, I have wondered how we should handle laptops in
1238 Debian Edu.  The Debian Edu infrastructure is mostly designed to
1239 handle stationary computers, and less suited for computers that come
1240 and go.</p>
1241
1242 <p>Now I finally believe I have an sensible idea on how to adjust
1243 Debian Edu for laptops, by introducing a new profile for them, for
1244 example called Roaming Workstations.  Here are my thought on this.
1245 The setup would consist of the following:</p>
1246
1247 <ul>
1248
1249  <li>During installation, the user name of the owner / primary user of
1250    the laptop is requested and a local home directory is set up for
1251    the user, with uid and gid information fetched from the LDAP
1252    server.  This allow the user to work also when offline.  The
1253    central home directory can be available in a subdirectory on
1254    request, for example mounted via CIFS.  It could be mounted
1255    automatically when a user log in while on the Debian Edu network,
1256    and unmounted when the machine is taken away (network down,
1257    hibernate, etc), it can be set up to do automatic mounting on
1258    request (using autofs), or perhaps some GUI button on the desktop
1259    can be used to access it when needed.  Perhaps it is enough to use
1260    the fish protocol in KDE?</li>
1261
1262  <li>Password checking is set up to use LDAP or Kerberos
1263    authentication when the machine is on the Debian Edu network, and
1264    to cache the password for offline checking when the machine unable
1265    to reach the LDAP or Kerberos server.  This can be done using
1266    <a href="http://www.padl.com/OSS/pam_ccreds.html">libpam-ccreds</a>
1267    or the Fedora developed
1268    <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SSSD">System
1269    Security Services Daemon</a> packages.</li>
1270
1271  <li>File synchronisation with the central home directory is set up
1272    using a shared directory in both the local and the central home
1273    directory, using unison.</li>
1274
1275  <li>Printing should be set up to print to all printers broadcasting
1276    their existence on the local network, and should then work out of
1277    the box with CUPS.  For sites needing accurate printer quotas, some
1278    system with Kerberos authentication or printing via ssh could be
1279    implemented.</li>
1280
1281  <li>For users that should have local root access to their laptop,
1282    sudo should be used to allow this to the local user.</li>
1283
1284  <li>It would be nice if user and group information from LDAP is
1285    cached on the client, but given that there are entries for the
1286    local user and primary group in /etc/, it should not be needed.</li>
1287
1288 </ul>
1289
1290 <p>I believe all the pieces to implement this are in Debian/testing at
1291 the moment.  If we work quickly, we should be able to get this ready
1292 in time for the Squeeze release to freeze.  Some of the pieces need
1293 tweaking, like libpam-ccreds should get support for pam-auth-update
1294 (<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/566718">#566718</a>) and nslcd (or
1295 perhaps debian-edu-config) should get some integration code to stop
1296 its daemon when the LDAP server is unavailable to avoid long timeouts
1297 when disconnected from the net.  If we get Kerberos enabled, we need
1298 to make sure we avoid long timeouts there too.</p>
1299
1300 <p>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
1301 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.</p>
1302
1303  </div>
1304  <div class="tags">
1305
1306
1307
1308   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
1309
1310  </div>
1311 </div>
1312 <div class="padding"></div>
1313
1314 <div class="entry">
1315  <div class="title">
1316  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Forcing_new_users_to_change_their_password_on_first_login.html">Forcing new users to change their password on first login</a>
1317  </div>
1318  <div class="date">
1319   2010-05-02 13:47
1320  </div>
1321
1322  <div class="body">
1323
1324 <p>One interesting feature in Active Directory, is the ability to
1325 create a new user with an expired password, and thus force the user to
1326 change the password on the first login attempt.</p>
1327
1328 <p>I'm not quite sure how to do that with the LDAP setup in Debian
1329 Edu, but did some initial testing with a local account.  The account
1330 and password aging information is available in /etc/shadow, but
1331 unfortunately, it is not possible to specify an expiration time for
1332 passwords, only a maximum age for passwords.</p>
1333
1334 <p>A freshly created account (using adduser test) will have these
1335 settings in /etc/shadow:</p>
1336
1337 <blockquote><pre>
1338 root@tjener:~# chage -l test
1339 Last password change                                    : May 02, 2010
1340 Password expires                                        : never
1341 Password inactive                                       : never
1342 Account expires                                         : never
1343 Minimum number of days between password change          : 0
1344 Maximum number of days between password change          : 99999
1345 Number of days of warning before password expires       : 7
1346 root@tjener:~#
1347 </pre></blockquote>
1348
1349 <p>The only way I could come up with to create a user with an expired
1350 account, is to change the date of the last password change to the
1351 lowest value possible (January 1th 1970), and the maximum password age
1352 to the difference in days between that date and today.  To make it
1353 simple, I went for 30 years (30 * 365 = 10950) and January 2th (to
1354 avoid testing if 0 is a valid value).</p>
1355
1356 <p>After using these commands to set it up, it seem to work as
1357 intended:</p>
1358
1359 <blockquote><pre>
1360 root@tjener:~# chage -d 1 test; chage -M 10950 test
1361 root@tjener:~# chage -l test
1362 Last password change                                    : Jan 02, 1970
1363 Password expires                                        : never
1364 Password inactive                                       : never
1365 Account expires                                         : never
1366 Minimum number of days between password change          : 0
1367 Maximum number of days between password change          : 10950
1368 Number of days of warning before password expires       : 7
1369 root@tjener:~#
1370 </pre></blockquote>
1371
1372 <p>So far I have tested this with ssh and console, and kdm (in
1373 Squeeze) login, and all ask for a new password before login in the
1374 user (with ssh, I was thrown out and had to log in again).</p>
1375
1376 <p>Perhaps we should set up something similar for Debian Edu, to make
1377 sure only the user itself have the account password?</p>
1378
1379 <p>If you want to comment on or help out with implementing this for
1380 Debian Edu, please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.</p>
1381
1382 <p>Update 2010-05-02 17:20: Paul Tötterman tells me on IRC that the
1383 shadow(8) page in Debian/testing now state that setting the date of
1384 last password change to zero (0) will force the password to be changed
1385 on the first login.  This was not mentioned in the manual in Lenny, so
1386 I did not notice this in my initial testing.  I have tested it on
1387 Squeeze, and '<tt>chage -d 0 username</tt>' do work there.  I have not
1388 tested it on Lenny yet.</p>
1389
1390 <p>Update 2010-05-02-19:05: Jim Paris tells me via email that an
1391 equivalent command to expire a password is '<tt>passwd -e
1392 username</tt>', which insert zero into the date of the last password
1393 change.</p>
1394
1395  </div>
1396  <div class="tags">
1397
1398
1399
1400   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet</a>.
1401
1402  </div>
1403 </div>
1404 <div class="padding"></div>
1405
1406 <div class="entry">
1407  <div class="title">
1408  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Parallellizing_the_boot_in_Debian_Squeeze___ready_for_wider_testing.html">Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing</a>
1409  </div>
1410  <div class="date">
1411   2010-05-06 23:25
1412  </div>
1413
1414  <div class="body">
1415
1416 <p>These days, the init.d script dependencies in Squeeze are quite
1417 complete, so complete that it is actually possible to run all the
1418 init.d scripts in parallell based on these dependencies.  If you want
1419 to test your Squeeze system, make sure
1420 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot">dependency
1421 based boot sequencing</a> is enabled, and add this line to
1422 /etc/default/rcS:</p>
1423
1424 <blockquote><pre>
1425 CONCURRENCY=makefile
1426 </pre></blockquote>
1427
1428 <p>That is it.  It will cause sysv-rc to use the startpar tool to run
1429 scripts in parallel using the dependency information stored in
1430 /etc/init.d/.depend.boot, /etc/init.d/.depend.start and
1431 /etc/init.d/.depend.stop to order the scripts.  Startpar is configured
1432 to try to start the kdm and gdm scripts as early as possible, and will
1433 start the facilities required by kdm or gdm as early as possible to
1434 make this happen.</p>
1435
1436 <p>Give it a try, and see if you like the result.  If some services
1437 fail to start properly, it is most likely because they have incomplete
1438 init.d script dependencies in their startup script (or some of their
1439 dependent scripts have incomplete dependencies).  Report bugs and get
1440 the package maintainers to fix it. :)</p>
1441
1442 <p>Running scripts in parallel could be the default in Debian when we
1443 manage to get the init.d script dependencies complete and correct.  I
1444 expect we will get there in Squeeze+1, if we get manage to test and
1445 fix the remaining issues.</p>
1446
1447 <p>If you report any problems with dependencies in init.d scripts to
1448 the BTS, please usertag the report to get it to show up at
1449 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=initscripts-ng-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">the
1450 list of usertagged bugs related to this</a>.</p>
1451
1452  </div>
1453  <div class="tags">
1454
1455
1456
1457   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
1458
1459  </div>
1460 </div>
1461 <div class="padding"></div>
1462
1463 <div class="entry">
1464  <div class="title">
1465  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/systemd__an_interesting_alternative_to_upstart.html">systemd, an interesting alternative to upstart</a>
1466  </div>
1467  <div class="date">
1468   2010-05-13 22:20
1469  </div>
1470
1471  <div class="body">
1472
1473 <p>The last few days a new boot system called
1474 <a href="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd">systemd</a>
1475 has been
1476 <a href="http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html">introduced</a>
1477
1478 to the free software world.  I have not yet had time to play around
1479 with it, but it seem to be a very interesting alternative to
1480 <a href="http://upstart.ubuntu.com/">upstart</a>, and might prove to be
1481 a good alternative for Debian when we are able to switch to an event
1482 based boot system.  Tollef is
1483 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/580814">in the process</a> of getting
1484 systemd into Debian, and I look forward to seeing how well it work.  I
1485 like the fact that systemd handles init.d scripts with dependency
1486 information natively, allowing them to run in parallel where upstart
1487 at the moment do not.</p>
1488
1489 <p>Unfortunately do systemd have the same problem as upstart regarding
1490 platform support.  It only work on recent Linux kernels, and also need
1491 some new kernel features enabled to function properly.  This means
1492 kFreeBSD and Hurd ports of Debian will need a port or a different boot
1493 system.  Not sure how that will be handled if systemd proves to be the
1494 way forward.</p>
1495
1496 <p>In the mean time, based on the
1497 <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/05/msg00122.html">input
1498 on debian-devel@</a> regarding parallel booting in Debian, I have
1499 decided to enable full parallel booting as the default in Debian as
1500 soon as possible (probably this weekend or early next week), to see if
1501 there are any remaining serious bugs in the init.d dependencies.  A
1502 new version of the sysvinit package implementing this change is
1503 already in experimental.  If all go well, Squeeze will be released
1504 with parallel booting enabled by default.</p>
1505
1506  </div>
1507  <div class="tags">
1508
1509
1510
1511   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
1512
1513  </div>
1514 </div>
1515 <div class="padding"></div>
1516
1517 <div class="entry">
1518  <div class="title">
1519  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Sitesummary_tip__Listing_MAC_address_of_all_clients.html">Sitesummary tip: Listing MAC address of all clients</a>
1520  </div>
1521  <div class="date">
1522   2010-05-14 21:10
1523  </div>
1524
1525  <div class="body">
1526
1527 <p>In the recent Debian Edu versions, the
1528 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/SiteSummary">sitesummary
1529 system</a> is used to keep track of the machines in the school
1530 network.  Each machine will automatically report its status to the
1531 central server after boot and once per night.  The network setup is
1532 also reported, and using this information it is possible to get the
1533 MAC address of all network interfaces in the machines.  This is useful
1534 to update the DHCP configuration.</p>
1535
1536 <p>To give some idea how to use sitesummary, here is a one-liner to
1537 ist all MAC addresses of all machines reporting to sitesummary.  Run
1538 this on the collector host:</p>
1539
1540 <blockquote><pre>
1541 perl -MSiteSummary -e 'for_all_hosts(sub { print join(" ", get_macaddresses(shift)), "\n"; });'
1542 </pre></blockquote>
1543
1544 <p>This will list all MAC addresses assosiated with all machine, one
1545 line per machine and with space between the MAC addresses.</p>
1546
1547 <p>To allow system administrators easier job at adding static DHCP
1548 addresses for hosts, it would be possible to extend this to fetch
1549 machine information from sitesummary and update the DHCP and DNS
1550 tables in LDAP using this information.  Such tool is unfortunately not
1551 written yet.</p>
1552
1553  </div>
1554  <div class="tags">
1555
1556
1557
1558   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary</a>.
1559
1560  </div>
1561 </div>
1562 <div class="padding"></div>
1563
1564 <div class="entry">
1565  <div class="title">
1566  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Parallellized_boot_is_now_the_default_in_Debian_unstable.html">Parallellized boot is now the default in Debian/unstable</a>
1567  </div>
1568  <div class="date">
1569   2010-05-14 22:40
1570  </div>
1571
1572  <div class="body">
1573
1574 <p>Since this evening, parallel booting is the default in
1575 Debian/unstable for machines using dependency based boot sequencing.
1576 Apparently the testing of concurrent booting has been wider than
1577 expected, if I am to believe the
1578 <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/05/msg00122.html">input
1579 on debian-devel@</a>, and I concluded a few days ago to move forward
1580 with the feature this weekend, to give us some time to detect any
1581 remaining problems before Squeeze is frozen.  If serious problems are
1582 detected, it is simple to change the default back to sequential boot.
1583 The upload of the new sysvinit package also activate a new upstream
1584 version.</p>
1585
1586 More information about
1587 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot">dependency
1588 based boot sequencing</a> is available from the Debian wiki.  It is
1589 currently possible to disable parallel booting when one run into
1590 problems caused by it, by adding this line to /etc/default/rcS:</p>
1591
1592 <blockquote><pre>
1593 CONCURRENCY=none
1594 </pre></blockquote>
1595
1596 <p>If you report any problems with dependencies in init.d scripts to
1597 the BTS, please usertag the report to get it to show up at
1598 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=initscripts-ng-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">the
1599 list of usertagged bugs related to this</a>.</p>
1600
1601  </div>
1602  <div class="tags">
1603
1604
1605
1606   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
1607
1608  </div>
1609 </div>
1610 <div class="padding"></div>
1611
1612 <div class="entry">
1613  <div class="title">
1614  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Pieces_of_the_roaming_laptop_puzzle_in_Debian.html">Pieces of the roaming laptop puzzle in Debian</a>
1615  </div>
1616  <div class="date">
1617   2010-05-19 19:00
1618  </div>
1619
1620  <div class="body">
1621
1622 <p>Today, the last piece of the puzzle for roaming laptops in Debian
1623 Edu finally entered the Debian archive.  Today, the new
1624 <a href="http://packages.qa.debian.org/libp/libpam-mklocaluser.html">libpam-mklocaluser</a>
1625 package was accepted.  Two days ago, two other pieces was accepted
1626 into unstable.  The
1627 <a href="http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pam-python.html">pam-python</a>
1628 package needed by libpam-mklocaluser, and the
1629 <a href="http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/sssd.html">sssd</a> package
1630 passed NEW on Monday.  In addition, the
1631 <a href="http://packages.qa.debian.org/libp/libpam-ccreds.html">libpam-ccreds</a>
1632 package we need is in experimental (version 10-4) since Saturday, and
1633 hopefully will be moved to unstable soon.</p>
1634
1635 <p>This collection of packages allow for two different setups for
1636 roaming laptops.  The traditional setup would be using libpam-ccreds,
1637 nscd and libpam-mklocaluser with LDAP or Kerberos authentication,
1638 which should work out of the box if the configuration changes proposed
1639 for nscd in <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/485282">BTS report
1640 #485282</a> is implemented.  The alternative setup is to use sssd with
1641 libpam-mklocaluser to connect to LDAP or Kerberos and let sssd take
1642 care of the caching of passwords and group information.</p>
1643
1644 <p>I have so far been unable to get sssd to work with the LDAP server
1645 at the University, but suspect the issue is some SSL/GnuTLS related
1646 problem with the server certificate.  I plan to update the Debian
1647 package to version 1.2, which is scheduled for next week, and hope to
1648 find time to make sure the next release will include both the
1649 Debian/Ubuntu specific patches.  Upstream is friendly and responsive,
1650 and I am sure we will find a good solution.</p>
1651
1652 <p>The idea is to set up the roaming laptops to authenticate using
1653 LDAP or Kerberos and create a local user with home directory in /home/
1654 when a usre in LDAP logs in via KDM or GDM for the first time, and
1655 cache the password for offline checking, as well as caching group
1656 memberhips and other relevant LDAP information.  The
1657 libpam-mklocaluser package was created to make sure the local home
1658 directory is in /home/, instead of /site/server/directory/ which would
1659 be the home directory if pam_mkhomedir was used.  To avoid confusion
1660 with support requests and configuration, we do not want local laptops
1661 to have users in a path that is used for the same users home directory
1662 on the home directory servers.</p>
1663
1664 <p>One annoying problem with gdm is that it do not show the PAM
1665 message passed to the user from libpam-mklocaluser when the local user
1666 is created.  Instead gdm simply reject the login with some generic
1667 message.  The message is shown in kdm, ssh and login, so I guess it is
1668 a bug in gdm.  Have not investigated if there is some other message
1669 type that can be used instead to get gdm to also show the message.</p>
1670
1671 <p>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
1672 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.</p>
1673
1674  </div>
1675  <div class="tags">
1676
1677
1678
1679   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
1680
1681  </div>
1682 </div>
1683 <div class="padding"></div>
1684
1685 <div class="entry">
1686  <div class="title">
1687  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/More_flexible_firmware_handling_in_debian_installer.html">More flexible firmware handling in debian-installer</a>
1688  </div>
1689  <div class="date">
1690   2010-05-22 21:30
1691  </div>
1692
1693  <div class="body">
1694
1695 <p>After a long break from debian-installer development, I finally
1696 found time today to return to the project.  Having to spend less time
1697 working dependency based boot in debian, as it is almost complete now,
1698 definitely helped freeing some time.</p>
1699
1700 <p>A while back, I ran into a problem while working on Debian Edu.  We
1701 include some firmware packages on the Debian Edu CDs, those needed to
1702 get disk and network controllers working.  Without having these
1703 firmware packages available during installation, it is impossible to
1704 install Debian Edu on the given machine, and because our target group
1705 are non-technical people, asking them to provide firmware packages on
1706 an external medium is a support pain.  Initially, I expected it to be
1707 enough to include the firmware packages on the CD to get
1708 debian-installer to find and use them.  This proved to be wrong.
1709 Next, I hoped it was enough to symlink the relevant firmware packages
1710 to some useful location on the CD (tried /cdrom/ and
1711 /cdrom/firmware/).  This also proved to not work, and at this point I
1712 found time to look at the debian-installer code to figure out what was
1713 going to work.</p>
1714
1715 <p>The firmware loading code is in the hw-detect package, and a closer
1716 look revealed that it would only look for firmware packages outside
1717 the installation media, so the CD was never checked for firmware
1718 packages.  It would only check USB sticks, floppies and other
1719 "external" media devices.  Today I changed it to also look in the
1720 /cdrom/firmware/ directory on the mounted CD or DVD, which should
1721 solve the problem I ran into with Debian edu.  I also changed it to
1722 look in /firmware/, to make sure the installer also find firmware
1723 provided in the initrd when booting the installer via PXE, to allow us
1724 to provide the same feature in the PXE setup included in Debian
1725 Edu.</p>
1726
1727 <p>To make sure firmware deb packages with a license questions are not
1728 activated without asking if the license is accepted, I extended
1729 hw-detect to look for preinst scripts in the firmware packages, and
1730 run these before activating the firmware during installation.  The
1731 license question is asked using debconf in the preinst, so this should
1732 solve the issue for the firmware packages I have looked at so far.</p>
1733
1734 <p>If you want to discuss the details of these features, please
1735 contact us on debian-boot@lists.debian.org.</p>
1736
1737  </div>
1738  <div class="tags">
1739
1740
1741
1742   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
1743
1744  </div>
1745 </div>
1746 <div class="padding"></div>
1747
1748 <div class="entry">
1749  <div class="title">
1750  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Parallellized_boot_seem_to_hold_up_well_in_Debian_testing.html">Parallellized boot seem to hold up well in Debian/testing</a>
1751  </div>
1752  <div class="date">
1753   2010-05-27 23:55
1754  </div>
1755
1756  <div class="body">
1757
1758 <p>A few days ago, parallel booting was enabled in Debian/testing.
1759 The feature seem to hold up pretty well, but three fairly serious
1760 issues are known and should be solved:
1761
1762 <p><ul>
1763
1764 <li>The wicd package seen to
1765 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/508289">break NFS mounting</a> and
1766 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/581586">network setup</a> when
1767 parallel booting is enabled.  No idea why, but the wicd maintainer
1768 seem to be on the case.</li>
1769
1770 <li>The nvidia X driver seem to
1771 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/583312">have a race condition</a>
1772 triggered more easily when parallel booting is in effect.  The
1773 maintainer is on the case.</li>
1774
1775 <li>The sysv-rc package fail to properly enable dependency based boot
1776 sequencing (the shutdown is broken) when old file-rc users
1777 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/575080">try to switch back</a> to
1778 sysv-rc.  One way to solve it would be for file-rc to create
1779 /etc/init.d/.legacy-bootordering, and another is to try to make
1780 sysv-rc more robust.  Will investigate some more and probably upload a
1781 workaround in sysv-rc to help those trying to move from file-rc to
1782 sysv-rc get a working shutdown.</li>
1783
1784 </ul></p>
1785
1786 <p>All in all not many surprising issues, and all of them seem
1787 solvable before Squeeze is released.  In addition to these there are
1788 some packages with bugs in their dependencies and run level settings,
1789 which I expect will be fixed in a reasonable time span.</p>
1790
1791 <p>If you report any problems with dependencies in init.d scripts to
1792 the BTS, please usertag the report to get it to show up at
1793 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=initscripts-ng-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">the
1794 list of usertagged bugs related to this</a>.</p>
1795
1796 <p>Update: Correct bug number to file-rc issue.</p>
1797
1798  </div>
1799  <div class="tags">
1800
1801
1802
1803   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
1804
1805  </div>
1806 </div>
1807 <div class="padding"></div>
1808
1809 <div class="entry">
1810  <div class="title">
1811  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/KDM_fail_at_boot_with_NVidia_cards___and_no_one_try_to_fix_it_.html">KDM fail at boot with NVidia cards - and no one try to fix it?</a>
1812  </div>
1813  <div class="date">
1814   2010-06-01 17:05
1815  </div>
1816
1817  <div class="body">
1818
1819 <p>It is strange to watch how a bug in Debian causing KDM to fail to
1820 start at boot when an NVidia video card is used is handled.  The
1821 problem seem to be that the nvidia X.org driver uses a long time to
1822 initialize, and this duration is longer than kdm is configured to
1823 wait.</p>
1824
1825 <p>I came across two bugs related to this issue,
1826 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/583312">#583312</a> initially filed
1827 against initscripts and passed on to nvidia-glx when it became obvious
1828 that the nvidia drivers were involved, and
1829 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/524751">#524751</a> initially filed against
1830 kdm and passed on to src:nvidia-graphics-drivers for unknown reasons.</p>
1831
1832 <p>To me, it seem that no-one is interested in actually solving the
1833 problem nvidia video card owners experience and make sure the Debian
1834 distribution work out of the box for these users.  The nvidia driver
1835 maintainers expect kdm to be set up to wait longer, while kdm expect
1836 the nvidia driver maintainers to fix the driver to start faster, and
1837 while they wait for each other I guess the users end up switching to a
1838 distribution that work for them.  I have no idea what the solution is,
1839 but I am pretty sure that waiting for each other is not it.</p>
1840
1841 <p>I wonder why we end up handling bugs this way.</p>
1842
1843  </div>
1844  <div class="tags">
1845
1846
1847
1848   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
1849
1850  </div>
1851 </div>
1852 <div class="padding"></div>
1853
1854 <div class="entry">
1855  <div class="title">
1856  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Sitesummary_tip__Listing_computer_hardware_models_used_at_site.html">Sitesummary tip: Listing computer hardware models used at site</a>
1857  </div>
1858  <div class="date">
1859   2010-06-03 12:05
1860  </div>
1861
1862  <div class="body">
1863
1864 <p>When using sitesummary at a site to track machines, it is possible
1865 to get a list of the machine types in use thanks to the DMI
1866 information extracted from each machine.  The script to do so is
1867 included in the sitesummary package, and here is example output from
1868 the Skolelinux build servers:</p>
1869
1870 <blockquote><pre>
1871 maintainer:~# /usr/lib/sitesummary/hardware-model-summary
1872   vendor                    count
1873   Dell Computer Corporation     1
1874     PowerEdge 1750              1
1875   IBM                           1
1876     eserver xSeries 345 -[8670M1X]-     1
1877   Intel                         2
1878   [no-dmi-info]                 3
1879 maintainer:~#
1880 </pre></blockquote>
1881
1882 <p>The quality of the report depend on the quality of the DMI tables
1883 provided in each machine.  Here there are Intel machines without model
1884 information listed with Intel as vendor and mo model, and virtual Xen
1885 machines listed as [no-dmi-info].  One can add -l as a command line
1886 option to list the individual machines.</p>
1887
1888 <p>A larger list is
1889 <a href="http://narvikskolen.no/sitesummary/">available from the the
1890 city of Narvik</a>, which uses Skolelinux on all their shools and also
1891 provide the basic sitesummary report publicly.  In their report there
1892 are ~1400 machines. I know they use both Ubuntu and Skolelinux on
1893 their machines, and as sitesummary is available in both distributions,
1894 it is trivial to get all of them to report to the same central
1895 collector.</p>
1896
1897  </div>
1898  <div class="tags">
1899
1900
1901
1902   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary</a>.
1903
1904  </div>
1905 </div>
1906 <div class="padding"></div>
1907
1908 <div class="entry">
1909  <div class="title">
1910  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/A_manual_for_standards_wars___.html">A manual for standards wars...</a>
1911  </div>
1912  <div class="date">
1913   2010-06-06 14:15
1914  </div>
1915
1916  <div class="body">
1917
1918 <p>Via the
1919 <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/robweir/antic-atom/~3/QzU4RgoAGMg/weekly-links-10.html">blog
1920 of Rob Weir</a> I came across the very interesting essay named
1921 <a href="http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/shapiro/wars.pdf">The Art of
1922 Standards Wars</a> (PDF 25 pages).  I recommend it for everyone
1923 following the standards wars of today.</p>
1924
1925  </div>
1926  <div class="tags">
1927
1928
1929
1930   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard</a>.
1931
1932  </div>
1933 </div>
1934 <div class="padding"></div>
1935
1936 <div class="entry">
1937  <div class="title">
1938  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Upstart_or_sysvinit___as_init_d_scripts_see_it.html">Upstart or sysvinit - as init.d scripts see it</a>
1939  </div>
1940  <div class="date">
1941   2010-06-06 23:55
1942  </div>
1943
1944  <div class="body">
1945
1946 <p>If Debian is to migrate to upstart on Linux, I expect some init.d
1947 scripts to migrate (some of) their operations to upstart job while
1948 keeping the init.d for hurd and kfreebsd.  The packages with such
1949 needs will need a way to get their init.d scripts to behave
1950 differently when used with sysvinit and with upstart.  Because of
1951 this, I had a look at the environment variables set when a init.d
1952 script is running under upstart, and when it is not.</p>
1953
1954 <p>With upstart, I notice these environment variables are set when a
1955 script is started from rcS.d/ (ignoring some irrelevant ones like
1956 COLUMNS):</p>
1957
1958 <blockquote><pre>
1959 DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL=2
1960 previous=N
1961 PREVLEVEL=
1962 RUNLEVEL=
1963 runlevel=S
1964 UPSTART_EVENTS=startup
1965 UPSTART_INSTANCE=
1966 UPSTART_JOB=rc-sysinit
1967 </pre></blockquote>
1968
1969 <p>With sysvinit, these environment variables are set for the same
1970 script.</p>
1971
1972 <blockquote><pre>
1973 INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.88
1974 previous=N
1975 PREVLEVEL=N
1976 RUNLEVEL=S
1977 runlevel=S
1978 </pre></blockquote>
1979
1980 <p>The RUNLEVEL and PREVLEVEL environment variables passed on from
1981 sysvinit are not set by upstart.  Not sure if it is intentional or not
1982 to not be compatible with sysvinit in this regard.</p>
1983
1984 <p>For scripts needing to behave differently when upstart is used,
1985 looking for the UPSTART_JOB environment variable seem to be a good
1986 choice.</p>
1987
1988  </div>
1989  <div class="tags">
1990
1991
1992
1993   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
1994
1995  </div>
1996 </div>
1997 <div class="padding"></div>
1998
1999 <div class="entry">
2000  <div class="title">
2001  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_upgrade_testing_from_Lenny_to_Squeeze.html">Automatic upgrade testing from Lenny to Squeeze</a>
2002  </div>
2003  <div class="date">
2004   2010-06-11 22:50
2005  </div>
2006
2007  <div class="body">
2008
2009 <p>The last few days I have done some upgrade testing in Debian, to
2010 see if the upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze will go smoothly.  A few bugs
2011 have been discovered and reported in the process
2012 (<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/585410">#585410</a> in nagios3-cgi,
2013 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/584879">#584879</a> already fixed in
2014 enscript and <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/584861">#584861</a> in
2015 kdebase-workspace-data), and to get a more regular testing going on, I
2016 am working on a script to automate the test.</p>
2017
2018 <p>The idea is to create a Lenny chroot and use tasksel to install a
2019 Gnome or KDE desktop installation inside the chroot before upgrading
2020 it.  To ensure no services are started in the chroot, a policy-rc.d
2021 script is inserted.  To make sure tasksel believe it is to install a
2022 desktop on a laptop, the tasksel tests are replaced in the chroot
2023 (only acceptable because this is a throw-away chroot).</p>
2024
2025 <p>A naive upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze using aptitude dist-upgrade
2026 currently always fail because udev refuses to upgrade with the kernel
2027 in Lenny, so to avoid that problem the file /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade
2028 is created.  The bug report
2029 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/566000">#566000</a> make me suspect
2030 this problem do not trigger in a chroot, but I touch the file anyway
2031 to make sure the upgrade go well.  Testing on virtual and real
2032 hardware have failed me because of udev so far, and creating this file
2033 do the trick in such settings anyway.  This is a
2034 <a href="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/failed-dist-upgrade-due-to-udev-config_sysfs_deprecated-nonsense-804130/">known
2035 issue</a> and the current udev behaviour is intended by the udev
2036 maintainer because he lack the resources to rewrite udev to keep
2037 working with old kernels or something like that.  I really wish the
2038 udev upstream would keep udev backwards compatible, to avoid such
2039 upgrade problem, but given that they fail to do so, I guess
2040 documenting the way out of this mess is the best option we got for
2041 Debian Squeeze.</p>
2042
2043 <p>Anyway, back to the task at hand, testing upgrades.  This test
2044 script, which I call <tt>upgrade-test</tt> for now, is doing the
2045 trick:</p>
2046
2047 <blockquote><pre>
2048 #!/bin/sh
2049 set -ex
2050
2051 if [ "$1" ] ; then
2052     desktop=$1
2053 else
2054     desktop=gnome
2055 fi
2056
2057 from=lenny
2058 to=squeeze
2059
2060 exec &lt; /dev/null
2061 unset LANG
2062 mirror=http://ftp.skolelinux.org/debian
2063 tmpdir=chroot-$from-upgrade-$to-$desktop
2064 fuser -mv .
2065 debootstrap $from $tmpdir $mirror
2066 chroot $tmpdir aptitude update
2067 cat > $tmpdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d &lt;&lt;EOF
2068 #!/bin/sh
2069 exit 101
2070 EOF
2071 chmod a+rx $tmpdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d
2072 exit_cleanup() {
2073     umount $tmpdir/proc
2074 }
2075 mount -t proc proc $tmpdir/proc
2076 # Make sure proc is unmounted also on failure
2077 trap exit_cleanup EXIT INT
2078
2079 chroot $tmpdir aptitude -y install debconf-utils
2080
2081 # Make sure tasksel autoselection trigger.  It need the test scripts
2082 # to return the correct answers.
2083 echo tasksel tasksel/desktop multiselect $desktop | \
2084     chroot $tmpdir debconf-set-selections
2085
2086 # Include the desktop and laptop task
2087 for test in desktop laptop ; do
2088     echo > $tmpdir/usr/lib/tasksel/tests/$test &lt;&lt;EOF
2089 #!/bin/sh
2090 exit 2
2091 EOF
2092     chmod a+rx $tmpdir/usr/lib/tasksel/tests/$test
2093 done
2094
2095 DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
2096 DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical
2097 export DEBIAN_FRONTEND DEBIAN_PRIORITY
2098 chroot $tmpdir tasksel --new-install
2099
2100 echo deb $mirror $to main > $tmpdir/etc/apt/sources.list
2101 chroot $tmpdir aptitude update
2102 touch $tmpdir/etc/udev/kernel-upgrade
2103 chroot $tmpdir aptitude -y dist-upgrade
2104 fuser -mv
2105 </pre></blockquote>
2106
2107 <p>I suspect it would be useful to test upgrades with both apt-get and
2108 with aptitude, but I have not had time to look at how they behave
2109 differently so far.  I hope to get a cron job running to do the test
2110 regularly and post the result on the web.  The Gnome upgrade currently
2111 work, while the KDE upgrade fail because of the bug in
2112 kdebase-workspace-data</p>
2113
2114 <p>I am not quite sure what kind of extract from the huge upgrade logs
2115 (KDE 167 KiB, Gnome 516 KiB) it make sense to include in this blog
2116 post, so I will refrain from trying.  I can report that for Gnome,
2117 aptitude report 760 packages upgraded, 448 newly installed, 129 to
2118 remove and 1 not upgraded and 1024MB need to be downloaded while for
2119 KDE the same numbers are 702 packages upgraded, 507 newly installed,
2120 193 to remove and 0 not upgraded and 1117MB need to be downloaded</p>
2121
2122 <p>I am very happy to notice that the Gnome desktop + laptop upgrade
2123 is able to migrate to dependency based boot sequencing and parallel
2124 booting without a hitch.  Was unsure if there were still bugs with
2125 packages failing to clean up their obsolete init.d script during
2126 upgrades, and no such problem seem to affect the Gnome desktop+laptop
2127 packages.</p>
2128
2129  </div>
2130  <div class="tags">
2131
2132
2133
2134   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
2135
2136  </div>
2137 </div>
2138 <div class="padding"></div>
2139
2140 <div class="entry">
2141  <div class="title">
2142  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__removals_by_apt_and_aptitude.html">Lenny->Squeeze upgrades, removals by apt and aptitude</a>
2143  </div>
2144  <div class="date">
2145   2010-06-13 09:05
2146  </div>
2147
2148  <div class="body">
2149
2150 <p>My
2151 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_upgrade_testing_from_Lenny_to_Squeeze.html">testing
2152 of Debian upgrades</a> from Lenny to Squeeze continues, and I've
2153 finally made the upgrade logs available from
2154 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/debian-upgrade-testing/</a>.
2155 I am now testing dist-upgrade of Gnome and KDE in a chroot using both
2156 apt and aptitude, and found their differences interesting.  This time
2157 I focus on their removal plans.</p>
2158
2159 <p>After installing a Gnome desktop and the laptop task, apt-get wants
2160 to remove 72 packages when dist-upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze.  The
2161 surprising part is that it want to remove xorg and all
2162 xserver-xorg-video* drivers.  Clearly not a good choice, but I am not
2163 sure why.  When asking aptitude to do the same, it want to remove 129
2164 packages, but most of them are library packages I suspect are no
2165 longer needed.  Both of them want to remove bluetooth packages, which
2166 I do not know.  Perhaps these bluetooth packages are obsolete?</p>
2167
2168 <p>For KDE, apt-get want to remove 82 packages, among them kdebase
2169 which seem like a bad idea and xorg the same way as with Gnome. Asking
2170 aptitude for the same, it wants to remove 192 packages, none which are
2171 too surprising.</p>
2172
2173 <p>I guess the removal of xorg during upgrades should be investigated
2174 and avoided, and perhaps others as well.  Here are the complete list
2175 of removals.  The complete logs is available from the URL above.  Note
2176 if you want to repeat these tests, that the upgrade test for
2177 kde+apt-get hung in the tasksel setup because of dpkg asking conffile
2178 questions.  No idea why.  I worked around it by using '<tt>echo >>
2179 /proc/<em>pidofdpkg</em>/fd/0</tt>' to tell dpkg to continue.</p>
2180
2181 <p><b>apt-get gnome 72</b>
2182 <br>bluez-gnome cupsddk-drivers deskbar-applet gnome
2183   gnome-desktop-environment gnome-network-admin gtkhtml3.14
2184   iceweasel-gnome-support libavcodec51 libdatrie0 libgdl-1-0
2185   libgnomekbd2 libgnomekbdui2 libmetacity0 libslab0 libxcb-xlib0
2186   nautilus-cd-burner python-gnome2-desktop python-gnome2-extras
2187   serpentine swfdec-mozilla update-manager xorg xserver-xorg
2188   xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
2189   xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
2190   xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom
2191   xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
2192   xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips
2193   xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-cyrix
2194   xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
2195   xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
2196   xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-imstt
2197   xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
2198   xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
2199   xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv
2200   xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
2201   xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
2202   xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
2203   xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
2204   xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
2205   xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
2206   xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident
2207   xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l
2208   xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga
2209   xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xulrunner-1.9
2210   xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support</p>
2211
2212 <p><b>aptitude gnome 129</b>
2213
2214 <br>bluez-gnome bluez-utils cpp-4.3 cupsddk-drivers dhcdbd
2215   djvulibre-desktop finger gnome-app-install gnome-mount
2216   gnome-network-admin gnome-spell gnome-vfs-obexftp
2217   gnome-volume-manager gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs gtkhtml3.14 libao2
2218   libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5 libavcodec51 libbluetooth2
2219   libcamel1.2-11 libcdio7 libcucul0 libcupsys2 libcurl3 libdatrie0
2220   libdirectfb-1.0-0 libdvdread3 libedataserver1.2-9 libeel2-2.20
2221   libeel2-data libepc-1.0-1 libepc-ui-1.0-1 libfaad0 libgail-common
2222   libgd2-noxpm libgda3-3 libgda3-common libgdl-1-0 libgdl-1-common
2223   libggz2 libggzcore9 libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-0 libgksuui1.0-1 libgmyth0
2224   libgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomekbd2 libgnomekbdui2 libgnomeprint2.2-0
2225   libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common
2226   libgnomevfs2-bin libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtkhtml2-0
2227   libgtksourceview-common libgtksourceview1.0-0 libgucharmap6
2228   libhesiod0 libicu38 libiw29 libkpathsea4 libltdl3 libmagick++10
2229   libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmetacity0 libmtp7 libmysqlclient15off
2230   libnautilus-burn4 libneon27 libnm-glib0 libnm-util0 libopal-2.2
2231   libosp5 libparted1.8-10 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3 libpt-1.10.10
2232   libpt-1.10.10-plugins-alsa libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l libraw1394-8
2233   libsensors3 libslab0 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-8 libssh2-1
2234   libsuitesparse-3.1.0 libswfdec-0.6-90 libtalloc1 libtotem-plparser10
2235   libtrackerclient0 libxalan2-java libxalan2-java-gcj libxcb-xlib0
2236   libxerces2-java libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12 libxtrap6
2237   libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3 mysql-common nautilus-cd-burner
2238   openoffice.org-writer2latex openssl-blacklist p7zip
2239   python-4suite-xml python-eggtrayicon python-gnome2-desktop
2240   python-gnome2-extras python-gtkhtml2 python-gtkmozembed
2241   python-numeric python-sexy serpentine svgalibg1 swfdec-gnome
2242   swfdec-mozilla totem-gstreamer update-manager wodim
2243   xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt
2244   xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vga
2245   zip</p>
2246
2247 <p><b>apt-get kde 82</b>
2248
2249 <br>cupsddk-drivers karm kaudiocreator kcoloredit kcontrol kde kde-core
2250   kdeaddons kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-bin-kde3
2251   kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kdeutils khelpcenter kicker
2252   kicker-applets knewsticker kolourpaint konq-plugins konqueror korn
2253   kpersonalizer kscreensaver ksplash libavcodec51 libdatrie0 libkiten1
2254   libxcb-xlib0 quanta superkaramba texlive-base-bin xorg xserver-xorg
2255   xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
2256   xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
2257   xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom
2258   xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
2259   xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips
2260   xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-cyrix
2261   xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
2262   xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
2263   xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-imstt
2264   xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
2265   xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
2266   xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv
2267   xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
2268   xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
2269   xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
2270   xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
2271   xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
2272   xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
2273   xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident
2274   xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l
2275   xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga
2276   xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xulrunner-1.9</p>
2277
2278 <p><b>aptitude kde 192</b>
2279 <br>bluez-utils cpp-4.3 cupsddk-drivers cvs dcoprss dhcdbd
2280   djvulibre-desktop dosfstools eyesapplet fifteenapplet finger gettext
2281   ghostscript-x imlib-base imlib11 indi kandy karm kasteroids
2282   kaudiocreator kbackgammon kbstate kcoloredit kcontrol kcron kdat
2283   kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-theme-window
2284   kdebase-bin-kde3 kdebase-kio-plugins kdeedu-data
2285   kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelirc kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data
2286   kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
2287   kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdeprint kdesktop kdessh
2288   kdict kdnssd kdvi kedit keduca kenolaba kfax kfaxview kfouleggs
2289   kghostview khelpcenter khexedit kiconedit kitchensync klatin
2290   klickety kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmoon kmrml kodo kolourpaint
2291   kooka korn kpager kpdf kpercentage kpf kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler
2292   krec kregexpeditor ksayit ksim ksirc ksirtet ksmiletris ksmserver
2293   ksnake ksokoban ksplash ksvg ksysv ktip ktnef kuickshow kverbos
2294   kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kworldclock
2295   kxsldbg libakode2 libao2 libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile
2296   libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libavahi-compat-libdnssd1
2297   libavahi-core5 libavc1394-0 libavcodec51 libbluetooth2
2298   libboost-python1.34.1 libcucul0 libcurl3 libcvsservice0 libdatrie0
2299   libdirectfb-1.0-0 libdjvulibre21 libdvdread3 libfaad0 libfreebob0
2300   libgail-common libgd2-noxpm libgraphviz4 libgsmme1c2a libgtkhtml2-0
2301   libicu38 libiec61883-0 libindex0 libiw29 libk3b3 libkcal2b libkcddb1
2302   libkdeedu3 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkiten1 libkleopatra1 libkmime2
2303   libkpathsea4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1
2304   libksieve0 libktnef1 liblockdev1 libltdl3 libmagick10 libmimelib1c2a
2305   libmozjs1d libmpcdec3 libneon27 libnm-util0 libopensync0 libpisock9
2306   libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler3 libraw1394-8 libsmbios2
2307   libssh2-1 libsuitesparse-3.1.0 libtalloc1 libtiff-tools
2308   libxalan2-java libxalan2-java-gcj libxcb-xlib0 libxerces2-java
2309   libxerces2-java-gcj libxtrap6 mpeglib networkstatus
2310   openoffice.org-writer2latex pmount poster psutils quanta quanta-data
2311   superkaramba svgalibg1 tex-common texlive-base texlive-base-bin
2312   texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-recommended
2313   xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt
2314   xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vga
2315   xulrunner-1.9</p>
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